Comments on: The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/ Media, Tech & Business Models Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:37:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Η αξία της πληροφόρησης και η ανεξάρτητη δημοσιογραφία στο διαδίκτυο | smyrnaios.net http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-1872 Η αξία της πληροφόρησης και η ανεξάρτητη δημοσιογραφία στο διαδίκτυο | smyrnaios.net Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:19:45 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-1872 [...] εφημερίδας 20 Minutes, έκανε πρόσφατα μια ενδιαφέρουσα άσκηση επί χάρτου που δείχνει την εγγενή αδυναμία του διαδικτύου να [...] [...] εφημερίδας 20 Minutes, έκανε πρόσφατα μια ενδιαφέρουσα άσκηση επί χάρτου που δείχνει την εγγενή αδυναμία του διαδικτύου να [...]

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]]> By: News websites: More bucks for the click | Monday Note http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-490 News websites: More bucks for the click | Monday Note Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:39:52 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-490 [...] figures seem even more optimistic that our conclusions exposed in the Monday Note #53 (see: “The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight“. By measuring pure player news sites and so-called “Superblogs” (more than 1m [...] [...] figures seem even more optimistic that our conclusions exposed in the Monday Note #53 (see: “The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight“. By measuring pure player news sites and so-called “Superblogs” (more than 1m [...]

]]> By: Frédéric Filloux : l’information sur le web n’est pas rentable - Media Trend http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-299 Frédéric Filloux : l’information sur le web n’est pas rentable - Media Trend Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:25:12 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-299 [...] La démonstration de Frédéric Filloux, dans un billet publié le 29 septembre 2008, sur Mondaynote, est terrible. Voici les termes de son équation : • Un journaliste nous dit-il, coûte bon an [...] [...] La démonstration de Frédéric Filloux, dans un billet publié le 29 septembre 2008, sur Mondaynote, est terrible. Voici les termes de son équation : • Un journaliste nous dit-il, coûte bon an [...]

]]> By: But we make all our money from newsprint! | CoPress http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-196 But we make all our money from newsprint! | CoPress Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:56:03 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-196 [...] alternative forms of online revenue. Some newspapers have setup sites that help students find housing. Sites like [...] [...] alternative forms of online revenue. Some newspapers have setup sites that help students find housing. Sites like [...]

]]> By: Un site de news pure player est il viable ? | taggle.org http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-157 Un site de news pure player est il viable ? | taggle.org Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:19:42 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-157 [...] analyse de coûts détaillée sur Monday Note. Seuls quelques très gros acteurs américains, soutenus par une grosse rédaction papier, ont le [...] [...] analyse de coûts détaillée sur Monday Note. Seuls quelques très gros acteurs américains, soutenus par une grosse rédaction papier, ont le [...]

]]> By: Newspaper cost structure | Adrian Monck http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-151 Newspaper cost structure | Adrian Monck Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:06:35 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-151 [...] a TV person, I’m curious about the cost structure of print newspaper operations. Over at the Monday Note, Frédéric Filloux writes: In a typical operation, the biggest costs are industrial ones: [...] [...] a TV person, I’m curious about the cost structure of print newspaper operations. Over at the Monday Note, Frédéric Filloux writes: In a typical operation, the biggest costs are industrial ones: [...]

]]> By: But we make all our money from newsprint! - CoPress http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-143 But we make all our money from newsprint! - CoPress Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:08:29 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-143 [...] alternative forms of online revenue. Some newspapers have setup sites that help students find housing. Sites like [...] [...] alternative forms of online revenue. Some newspapers have setup sites that help students find housing. Sites like [...]

]]> By: La monétisation de l’audience « Les Etats Généraux de la presse (pôle 3) http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-102 La monétisation de l’audience « Les Etats Généraux de la presse (pôle 3) Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:17:03 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-102 [...] Là, j’ai peur d’être l’oiseau de mauvais augure. Ce n’est, en l’état des choses, pas possible. [...] [...] Là, j’ai peur d’être l’oiseau de mauvais augure. Ce n’est, en l’état des choses, pas possible. [...]

]]> By: Défendre la presse écrite face à la menace d’internet | ReadWriteWeb France http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-74 Défendre la presse écrite face à la menace d’internet | ReadWriteWeb France Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:49:17 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-74 [...] rapide calcul, réalisé avec brio par Frédéric Filloux et Jean-Louis Gassé souligne la dure réalité des revenus que l’on peu espérer tirer d’une publication gratuite [...] [...] rapide calcul, réalisé avec brio par Frédéric Filloux et Jean-Louis Gassé souligne la dure réalité des revenus que l’on peu espérer tirer d’une publication gratuite [...]

]]> By: Etats généraux de la presse: et la pub « ecosphere http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-63 Etats généraux de la presse: et la pub « ecosphere Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:00:32 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-63 [...] écoles de journalisme et que Frederic Filloux a populariser très brutalement sur son blog, calcul à l’appui (traduction chez Benoit). Hypothèse sous entendue par Filloux: quelle responsabilité des agences [...] [...] écoles de journalisme et que Frederic Filloux a populariser très brutalement sur son blog, calcul à l’appui (traduction chez Benoit). Hypothèse sous entendue par Filloux: quelle responsabilité des agences [...]

]]> By: And now… should we kill the print? « http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-50 And now… should we kill the print? « Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:21:03 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-50 [...] stop printing and invest all our money online? Would it be realistic? Short term? No? Middle term? In his blog, Frédéric Filloux, dares to make some calculations.. A little bit unpredictable… but it helps to start the [...] [...] stop printing and invest all our money online? Would it be realistic? Short term? No? Middle term? In his blog, Frédéric Filloux, dares to make some calculations.. A little bit unpredictable… but it helps to start the [...]

]]> By: Como vencer a crise - a reflexão em Espanha « http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-46 Como vencer a crise - a reflexão em Espanha « Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:29:31 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-46 [...] “Convergência de meios contra a crise“. Varela toma como ponto de partida alguns dos argumentos apresentados também há dias por Frédèric Filloux, no Monday Note, e apresenta-nos um quadro bem curioso com [...] [...] “Convergência de meios contra a crise“. Varela toma como ponto de partida alguns dos argumentos apresentados também há dias por Frédèric Filloux, no Monday Note, e apresenta-nos um quadro bem curioso com [...]

]]> By: NPPA Region One » Profit silos - not just for corn. http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-45 NPPA Region One » Profit silos - not just for corn. Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:04:22 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-45 [...] collaboration. All sounds good but can a mid-size newspaper make any money at it? At monday note, Frederic Filloux, an editor for the Norwegian group Schibsted, debunks the myth that leaner, [...] [...] collaboration. All sounds good but can a mid-size newspaper make any money at it? At monday note, Frederic Filloux, an editor for the Norwegian group Schibsted, debunks the myth that leaner, [...]

]]> By: hackademic.net — journalism • learning • teaching = journalism education » The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-44 hackademic.net — journalism • learning • teaching = journalism education » The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:02:53 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-44 [...] Read more here [link] Tags:business, hackademic, News, Newspapers, Online, revenue, web [...] [...] Read more here [link] Tags:business, hackademic, News, Newspapers, Online, revenue, web [...]

]]> By: The economics of moving from print to online « Beyond Digital Media http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-43 The economics of moving from print to online « Beyond Digital Media Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:52:43 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-43 [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note. [...] [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note. [...]

]]> By: The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note « Beyond Digital Media http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-42 The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note « Beyond Digital Media Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:43:34 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-42 [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note. [...] [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note. [...]

]]> By: Cision.net Blogs » Blog Archive » Comms Links 01/10/2008 http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-41 Cision.net Blogs » Blog Archive » Comms Links 01/10/2008 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:45:50 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-41 [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight [...] [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight [...]

]]> By: The Economics of News - moving from Print to Online http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-40 The Economics of News - moving from Print to Online Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:32:07 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-40 [...] Recommended read [...] [...] Recommended read [...]

]]> By: Des Etats généraux de la presse pour qui? « ecosphere http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-39 Des Etats généraux de la presse pour qui? « ecosphere Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:08:41 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-39 [...] autrement que sur un modèle au minimum mixte web-papier. Voir sur ce point l’excellente tentative de calcul de Frederic Filloux (ex patron de 20minutes, analyse synthetisée en français par Benoit [...] [...] autrement que sur un modèle au minimum mixte web-papier. Voir sur ce point l’excellente tentative de calcul de Frederic Filloux (ex patron de 20minutes, analyse synthetisée en français par Benoit [...]

]]> By: Tuesday squibs : Notes from a Teacher http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-38 Tuesday squibs : Notes from a Teacher Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:46:27 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-38 [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight. One of the best analyses I’ve yet seen on what moving from print to online actually means. Truly enlightening and a little frightening. (Once again, I’ve lost track of how I found this link, one of the hazards of living in the middle of a river of information.) [...] [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight. One of the best analyses I’ve yet seen on what moving from print to online actually means. Truly enlightening and a little frightening. (Once again, I’ve lost track of how I found this link, one of the hazards of living in the middle of a river of information.) [...]

]]> By: Build those Walls and They Will Come « converged//media http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-37 Build those Walls and They Will Come « converged//media Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:11:50 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-37 [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note [...] [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note [...]

]]> By: Rudolfweb » heute2: Wickert, Springer, DFL. http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-36 Rudolfweb » heute2: Wickert, Springer, DFL. Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:45:15 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-36 [...] Print goes Web funktioniert nicht ohne zusätzliche Erlösmodelle, analysiert Frédéric Filloux. mondaynote.com [...] [...] Print goes Web funktioniert nicht ohne zusätzliche Erlösmodelle, analysiert Frédéric Filloux. mondaynote.com [...]

]]> By: Pode um jornal online sobreviver? : Ponto Media http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-35 Pode um jornal online sobreviver? : Ponto Media Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:26:03 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-35 [...] UM ARTIGO para nos fazer pensar: The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight. [...] [...] UM ARTIGO para nos fazer pensar: The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight. [...]

]]> By: A conta do jornalismo não fecha nunca « Webmanário http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-34 A conta do jornalismo não fecha nunca « Webmanário Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:23 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-34 [...] 30, 2008 · Nenhum Comentário Muito lúcida a análise publicada pelo Monday Note que aborda as dificuldades da concretização da “redação do futuro”, aquela em que [...] [...] 30, 2008 · Nenhum Comentário Muito lúcida a análise publicada pelo Monday Note que aborda as dificuldades da concretização da “redação do futuro”, aquela em que [...]

]]> By: Basic Thinking Blog | Eyeballs IV: Die Jagd nach Traffic http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-33 Basic Thinking Blog | Eyeballs IV: Die Jagd nach Traffic Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:32:35 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-33 [...] Filloux beschäftigt sich exakt mit dem gleichen Thema: The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight (Monday #Note). Und er kommt zu folgendem Schluss: One thing is sure already: news is no longer [...] [...] Filloux beschäftigt sich exakt mit dem gleichen Thema: The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight (Monday #Note). Und er kommt zu folgendem Schluss: One thing is sure already: news is no longer [...]

]]> By: De impreso a online: perder 100, ganar 8 http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-32 De impreso a online: perder 100, ganar 8 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:15:20 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-32 [...] De impreso a online: perder 100, ganar 8www.mondaynote.com/?p=961 por tollendo hace pocos segundos [...] [...] De impreso a online: perder 100, ganar 8www.mondaynote.com/?p=961 por tollendo hace pocos segundos [...]

]]> By: Online newspapers: the figures just don’t add up | The Wire | Press Gazette http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-31 Online newspapers: the figures just don’t add up | The Wire | Press Gazette Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:48:05 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-31 [...] Frederic Filloux, international division editor for the Norwegian Schibsted Group, reckons that the cost of running a “pure digital newsroom” are about £7.94m a year (EUR10m) - £4.76m for staff, £790,000 on technical infrastructure things, £1.59m for marketing and another £790,000 for admin. [...] [...] Frederic Filloux, international division editor for the Norwegian Schibsted Group, reckons that the cost of running a “pure digital newsroom” are about £7.94m a year (EUR10m) - £4.76m for staff, £790,000 on technical infrastructure things, £1.59m for marketing and another £790,000 for admin. [...]

]]> By: Unrequired Reading {29.9.08} — Adrian Monck http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-30 Unrequired Reading {29.9.08} — Adrian Monck Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:01:25 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-30 [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note - "Corporate money will inevitably percolate into news economics through service contracts, requests for expertise, corporate communication assignments. The boundaries between sectors will blur. It already happened in the universities where contract-based private grants co-exist with fundamental research — and to some extent subsidizes it. The same mechanism will occur in the news business." [...] [...] The economics of moving from print to online: lose one hundred, get back eight | Monday Note - "Corporate money will inevitably percolate into news economics through service contracts, requests for expertise, corporate communication assignments. The boundaries between sectors will blur. It already happened in the universities where contract-based private grants co-exist with fundamental research — and to some extent subsidizes it. The same mechanism will occur in the news business." [...]

]]> By: Newspaper Innovation » Blog Archive » Integrated newsroom questioned http://www.mondaynote.com/2008/09/29/the-economics-of-moving-from-print-to-online-lose-one-hundred-get-back-eight/#comment-29 Newspaper Innovation » Blog Archive » Integrated newsroom questioned Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:15:44 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=961#comment-29 [...] for free daily 20 Minutes France, and now employed by 20 Minutes owner Schibsted, questions on his Monday Note blog the ‘Integrated Newsroom’ [...] [...] for free daily 20 Minutes France, and now employed by 20 Minutes owner Schibsted, questions on his Monday Note blog the ‘Integrated Newsroom’ [...]

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