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		<title>By: Vijay Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Email Validation

Hi,

Does Mondaynote, maintain an existing in house database, If yes, how accurate and update is your data base?

We at VOS Data maintain 60million permission based b2b email addresses with complete company contact details. Every existing recipient in out database is given permission to share their email address to third party vendors who can provide information based on their interest. We can append emails to your existing in house file at a flat price offer and charge only for the deliverable email adresses. $0.20 will be charged as a flat price and we have no minimum requirements for appending initiative. We can work from 500 records to any number of contacts. 

Please let me know your thought and send us a test file for appending at no cost.

We also, maintain b2c and b2b

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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Does Mondaynote, maintain an existing in house database, If yes, how accurate and update is your data base?</p>
<p>We at VOS Data maintain 60million permission based b2b email addresses with complete company contact details. Every existing recipient in out database is given permission to share their email address to third party vendors who can provide information based on their interest. We can append emails to your existing in house file at a flat price offer and charge only for the deliverable email adresses. $0.20 will be charged as a flat price and we have no minimum requirements for appending initiative. We can work from 500 records to any number of contacts. </p>
<p>Please let me know your thought and send us a test file for appending at no cost.</p>
<p>We also, maintain b2c and b2b</p>
<p>Vijay Kumar<br />
<a href="mailto:vosdata1@gmail.com">vosdata1@gmail.com</a><br />
Data Manager<br />
VOS</p>
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		<title>By: Technology, newspapers, the future &#171; Life is what you make it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology, newspapers, the future &#171; Life is what you make it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bailout of the newspapers &#171; Mark Slater&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bailout of the newspapers &#171; Mark Slater&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 11:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Os jornais não morreram coisa nenhuma! &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Os jornais não morreram coisa nenhuma! &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] E para um olhar às possibilidades ainda em aberto, recomendo este texto de Frédéric Filloux sobre aquele que pode ser&#8230;o futuro da [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jean-Yves Durocher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Yves Durocher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add on to my comment from Newspaper and Technology:
No plans yet to print IBD 

on HP digital press, O'Neil says

 
 
O'Neil Data Systems LLC said it currently has no plans to print Investor's Business Daily on the Hewlett Packard Inkjet Web Press it installed in December. 

Instead, IBD sister company O'Neil is currently using the press -- capable of printing broadsheet newspapers -- to produce personalized marketing and financial statements. 

"As of this date, O'Neil has no intentions of running IBD on this press," a spokeswoman for IBD told Newspapers &#38; Technology.
HP's Inkjet Web Press, first trotted out at drupa last year (see Newspapers &#38; Technology, July 2008), was designed with the newspaper market in mind, according to Aurelio Maruggi, vice president and general manager of inkjet high-speed production solutions for HP. The press features a scalable web width of up to 30 inches for production of full-broadsheet newspaper formats or multiple-up documents. It carries a price tag of $2.5 million and boasts speeds of up to 400 feet per minute at 600-by-600 dpi.
"O'Neil Data Systems' installation of the HP Inkjet Web Press is an important first step in the commercialization of a breakthrough printing platform based on a proven and stable technology, designed to offer significant value in terms of print quality, productivity and cost," Maruggi told N&#38;T. "HP inkjet high-speed production solutions is working closely with O'Neil to help the company establish productive, profitable printing operations on a wide range of applications."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add on to my comment from Newspaper and Technology:<br />
No plans yet to print IBD </p>
<p>on HP digital press, O&#8217;Neil says</p>
<p>O&#8217;Neil Data Systems LLC said it currently has no plans to print Investor&#8217;s Business Daily on the Hewlett Packard Inkjet Web Press it installed in December. </p>
<p>Instead, IBD sister company O&#8217;Neil is currently using the press &#8212; capable of printing broadsheet newspapers &#8212; to produce personalized marketing and financial statements. </p>
<p>&#8220;As of this date, O&#8217;Neil has no intentions of running IBD on this press,&#8221; a spokeswoman for IBD told Newspapers &amp; Technology.<br />
HP&#8217;s Inkjet Web Press, first trotted out at drupa last year (see Newspapers &amp; Technology, July 2008), was designed with the newspaper market in mind, according to Aurelio Maruggi, vice president and general manager of inkjet high-speed production solutions for HP. The press features a scalable web width of up to 30 inches for production of full-broadsheet newspaper formats or multiple-up documents. It carries a price tag of $2.5 million and boasts speeds of up to 400 feet per minute at 600-by-600 dpi.<br />
&#8220;O&#8217;Neil Data Systems&#8217; installation of the HP Inkjet Web Press is an important first step in the commercialization of a breakthrough printing platform based on a proven and stable technology, designed to offer significant value in terms of print quality, productivity and cost,&#8221; Maruggi told N&amp;T. &#8220;HP inkjet high-speed production solutions is working closely with O&#8217;Neil to help the company establish productive, profitable printing operations on a wide range of applications.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the Amazon Kindle falls in price to $100 and becomes available in countries other than the US, all this discussion about hypermodern printing presses will be moot.

Amazon also has precise demographic data for the benefit of advertisers (home addresses and a good idea of the person's interests from their Amazon purchases), as well as ultra-convenient instant delivery without the hassle of entering passwords, and billing is already set up.  Newspapers will rush to Kindle, possibly even subsidizing the cost in the same way that wireless carriers do for iPhones, when they realize that it offers them the viable online revenue model that has so far eluded them.  

Yes, I am predicting that people who read newspapers online will pay a modest subscription fee to read them on Kindle, something they would never do on a website.  Newspapers have to hang in and survive a few more years for this to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Amazon Kindle falls in price to $100 and becomes available in countries other than the US, all this discussion about hypermodern printing presses will be moot.</p>
<p>Amazon also has precise demographic data for the benefit of advertisers (home addresses and a good idea of the person&#8217;s interests from their Amazon purchases), as well as ultra-convenient instant delivery without the hassle of entering passwords, and billing is already set up.  Newspapers will rush to Kindle, possibly even subsidizing the cost in the same way that wireless carriers do for iPhones, when they realize that it offers them the viable online revenue model that has so far eluded them.  </p>
<p>Yes, I am predicting that people who read newspapers online will pay a modest subscription fee to read them on Kindle, something they would never do on a website.  Newspapers have to hang in and survive a few more years for this to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Yves Durocher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Yves Durocher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enfin! Finally!

In the late 1990's, Wifag, the Swiss press manufacturer tried its best to induced the US newspaper industry in adopting the European approach to newspaper manufacturing: multiple edition presses.Because like it or not a newspaper is a manufactured product. In the old continent, it is not rare to have newspapers with multiple editions, I'm more familiar with the French model, but it is also the case in Switzerland and Germany. I have more often than not linked this to Ouest-France, with its more than 500 full time journalist and editors and more than 2,000 correspondant, producing 40 different editions nightly, a total of over 800 pages! For those who understand French, the newspaper has one the best explanation on how a newspaper is done:

http://www.ouestfrance-visite.com/scripts/consult/ecran1/VISecran1.asp

Why this model never caught in the USA is simple: in a lot of major market the metro daily newspaper also owns the suburbans, so they sell two copies daily! Sometime they also print the News-York Times, or the Wall Street Journal or USA Today. When they have “local” editions, the news is tailored to fit the demographics rather than the news. And North-American newspapers are not as modular in their advertising as the European's, the news hole is rather flexible shape wise, not the case in Europe and impossible with 40 localised editions. So why rock the boat?

Still the only viable model is not the one proposed by Frédéric Filloux in the next 5 year time frame, what he is looking at is a personalized newspaper, more like 2025. But the zipcode model, at around 500 to 1,250 copies make sense in the smaller market. Not in the 100,000 and more market where 20,000 copies or more are needed to pay the bill but in the 25,000 and less, where rather than having a ratio of 240:1,000 you can easily reach 400:1,000. A lot of those are not owned by corporate giants, this is where the ownership is family owned. And this where the Offset revolution started in the mid-sixties. While the major and medium metro had huge iron press to protect (and union jobs that comes with them), the smaller newspapers embraced the small offset press, they embraced photolitho, they had the first computerized   photo typesetters. Why? Cheaper and better product.

They cannot even afford to look at the press described in the article, most are in the millions to a couple of millions range. Cannot change the business model of Kodak, HP and Screen in a day.

But there is hope:
http://silverbrookresearch.com/l-en/technology.html

(Gassé should report on this, he's the technology expert and VC guy)

Let's imagine a 4 web press, (printing 32 pages of tab or berliner) in full 4/4 colors, at a slow speed of a 1,000 copies per hour. At a price point of $250,000 US. It would take 2 to 3 hours to print 2,500 copies per press (the reason why the Versamatic and other cost so much is the RIP needed to do individual copies, plus the usual markup on a technology where the main market was up to last September printing financial documents and personalized mailing... When was the last time you got one of those in the mail?) But if you are in our 500 copies to 1,200 copies schema then the rip issue fades away rapidly. So our 10,000 copies daily would need 3 to four of these presses (handled by ONE as in 1 technician) while a smaller daily or weekly would need one. Let's not even talk about the space , the makeready and waste issues.

This is the future of the newspaper. A manufactured product producing a paper based information vector, easy to use, natural interface responding to the need of those who wants to read a tactile product.
The rest is something else, newspapers started most of the radio stations in America, most got out in the seventies as they did of television. The future, I may be wrong, belongs to those who stay focused. Podcast is usually bad radio, vidcast in the smaller market looks like reject from YouTube. There is a future for web based news, it's a different one from radio, tv and newspapers. 

But the economical model of the web, based on "lifting" news from the newspaper may be living it's last moment.

By the way, when Leroy Robinson founded the Stanstead Journal, where I'm publisher (publisher, writer, photog and sometime delivery man), he also was "lifting" news, 164 years later we are producing news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enfin! Finally!</p>
<p>In the late 1990&#8217;s, Wifag, the Swiss press manufacturer tried its best to induced the US newspaper industry in adopting the European approach to newspaper manufacturing: multiple edition presses.Because like it or not a newspaper is a manufactured product. In the old continent, it is not rare to have newspapers with multiple editions, I&#8217;m more familiar with the French model, but it is also the case in Switzerland and Germany. I have more often than not linked this to Ouest-France, with its more than 500 full time journalist and editors and more than 2,000 correspondant, producing 40 different editions nightly, a total of over 800 pages! For those who understand French, the newspaper has one the best explanation on how a newspaper is done:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ouestfrance-visite.com/scripts/consult/ecran1/VISecran1.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ouestfrance-visite.com/scripts/consult/ecran1/VISecran1.asp</a></p>
<p>Why this model never caught in the USA is simple: in a lot of major market the metro daily newspaper also owns the suburbans, so they sell two copies daily! Sometime they also print the News-York Times, or the Wall Street Journal or USA Today. When they have “local” editions, the news is tailored to fit the demographics rather than the news. And North-American newspapers are not as modular in their advertising as the European&#8217;s, the news hole is rather flexible shape wise, not the case in Europe and impossible with 40 localised editions. So why rock the boat?</p>
<p>Still the only viable model is not the one proposed by Frédéric Filloux in the next 5 year time frame, what he is looking at is a personalized newspaper, more like 2025. But the zipcode model, at around 500 to 1,250 copies make sense in the smaller market. Not in the 100,000 and more market where 20,000 copies or more are needed to pay the bill but in the 25,000 and less, where rather than having a ratio of 240:1,000 you can easily reach 400:1,000. A lot of those are not owned by corporate giants, this is where the ownership is family owned. And this where the Offset revolution started in the mid-sixties. While the major and medium metro had huge iron press to protect (and union jobs that comes with them), the smaller newspapers embraced the small offset press, they embraced photolitho, they had the first computerized   photo typesetters. Why? Cheaper and better product.</p>
<p>They cannot even afford to look at the press described in the article, most are in the millions to a couple of millions range. Cannot change the business model of Kodak, HP and Screen in a day.</p>
<p>But there is hope:<br />
<a href="http://silverbrookresearch.com/l-en/technology.html" rel="nofollow">http://silverbrookresearch.com/l-en/technology.html</a></p>
<p>(Gassé should report on this, he&#8217;s the technology expert and VC guy)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s imagine a 4 web press, (printing 32 pages of tab or berliner) in full 4/4 colors, at a slow speed of a 1,000 copies per hour. At a price point of $250,000 US. It would take 2 to 3 hours to print 2,500 copies per press (the reason why the Versamatic and other cost so much is the RIP needed to do individual copies, plus the usual markup on a technology where the main market was up to last September printing financial documents and personalized mailing&#8230; When was the last time you got one of those in the mail?) But if you are in our 500 copies to 1,200 copies schema then the rip issue fades away rapidly. So our 10,000 copies daily would need 3 to four of these presses (handled by ONE as in 1 technician) while a smaller daily or weekly would need one. Let&#8217;s not even talk about the space , the makeready and waste issues.</p>
<p>This is the future of the newspaper. A manufactured product producing a paper based information vector, easy to use, natural interface responding to the need of those who wants to read a tactile product.<br />
The rest is something else, newspapers started most of the radio stations in America, most got out in the seventies as they did of television. The future, I may be wrong, belongs to those who stay focused. Podcast is usually bad radio, vidcast in the smaller market looks like reject from YouTube. There is a future for web based news, it&#8217;s a different one from radio, tv and newspapers. </p>
<p>But the economical model of the web, based on &#8220;lifting&#8221; news from the newspaper may be living it&#8217;s last moment.</p>
<p>By the way, when Leroy Robinson founded the Stanstead Journal, where I&#8217;m publisher (publisher, writer, photog and sometime delivery man), he also was &#8220;lifting&#8221; news, 164 years later we are producing news.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting proposition, but one that ignores a pertinent fact: many people under the age of 30 no longer read their newspaper on paper!  I would much rather pay a monthly subscription fee for that very same customizable content delivered directly to my wireless device at 04:00.  The news will be more up to date, more convenient for me to process, and can still contain advertisements.  Plus, I can subscribe to some information from the national paper, some of the business paper and some of the local paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting proposition, but one that ignores a pertinent fact: many people under the age of 30 no longer read their newspaper on paper!  I would much rather pay a monthly subscription fee for that very same customizable content delivered directly to my wireless device at 04:00.  The news will be more up to date, more convenient for me to process, and can still contain advertisements.  Plus, I can subscribe to some information from the national paper, some of the business paper and some of the local paper.</p>
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		<title>By: jardenberg kommenterar - 2009-02-23 — jardenberg unedited</title>
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		<dc:creator>jardenberg kommenterar - 2009-02-23 — jardenberg unedited</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Pramit Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pramit Singh</dc:creator>
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		<description>Great Article. A newspaper group in India already uses similar digital printing machines, not necessarily the same machine though, to print district-focused local editions.

We have been doing a series, "Online Journalism Handbook" and in the series, we have put forward a list of 14 news business models up at Bighow. Hope it is a useful list for your readers.

http://bighow.com/poll/Which-among-these-is-the-best-news-business-model-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article. A newspaper group in India already uses similar digital printing machines, not necessarily the same machine though, to print district-focused local editions.</p>
<p>We have been doing a series, &#8220;Online Journalism Handbook&#8221; and in the series, we have put forward a list of 14 news business models up at Bighow. Hope it is a useful list for your readers.</p>
<p><a href="http://bighow.com/poll/Which-among-these-is-the-best-news-business-model-" rel="nofollow">http://bighow.com/poll/Which-among-these-is-the-best-news-business-model-</a></p>
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