Comments on: The web’s design problems http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/ Media, Tech & Business Models Thu, 23 May 2013 09:14:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: statuses http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-26999 statuses Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:57:07 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-26999 I'll right away snatch your rss feed as I can not find your email subscription hyperlink or newsletter service. Do you've any? Kindly permit me realize in order that I may just subscribe. Thanks. I’ll right away snatch your rss feed as I can not find your email subscription hyperlink or newsletter service. Do you’ve any? Kindly permit me realize in order that I may just subscribe. Thanks.

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]]> By: Jennifer http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-14696 Jennifer Mon, 09 May 2011 18:16:53 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-14696 good post good post

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-14695 Jennifer Mon, 09 May 2011 18:16:35 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-14695 This really is something I need to do more research into, thanks for the blog post. This really is something I need to do more research into, thanks for the blog post.

]]> By: Trop d’info tue le web  | CCFI http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-11516 Trop d’info tue le web  | CCFI Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:10:15 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-11516 [...] et souvent réduites. Le problème de place joint à un problème de visibilité demeure. Frédéric Filloux (ancien directeur de la rédaction à Libération) rappelle la redoutée barre du pliage du journal [...] [...] et souvent réduites. Le problème de place joint à un problème de visibilité demeure. Frédéric Filloux (ancien directeur de la rédaction à Libération) rappelle la redoutée barre du pliage du journal [...]

]]> By: Gilles BRUNO http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-11451 Gilles BRUNO Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:08:38 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-11451 bonjour Frédéric, it reminds me ths article published in 2007 : http://www.observatoiredesmedias.com/2007/11/30/musclez-vous-la-molette-les-nouvelles-pages-sont-la/ let's see how long Atlantico is going to be. à bientôt! bonjour Frédéric,

it reminds me ths article published in 2007 :

http://www.observatoiredesmedias.com/2007/11/30/musclez-vous-la-molette-les-nouvelles-pages-sont-la/

let’s see how long Atlantico is going to be.

à bientôt!

]]> By: Design Challenge – Reconciling efficiency with serendipity [26Mon10] | The Book http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-11416 Design Challenge – Reconciling efficiency with serendipity [26Mon10] | The Book Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:29:53 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-11416 [...] @ozarkherbs Clipped from www.mondaynote.com [...] [...] @ozarkherbs Clipped from http://www.mondaynote.com [...]

]]> By: Web Design Hamilton http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-9037 Web Design Hamilton Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:04:12 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-9037 Wow 23 scrolls is a lot to go through on a page. My laptop is 12" so it would be even more. The top part is definately prime real estate. Wow 23 scrolls is a lot to go through on a page. My laptop is 12″ so it would be even more. The top part is definately prime real estate.

]]> By: fajar http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-4859 fajar Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:11:43 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-4859 great article great article

]]> By: Web Design Toronto http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-3449 Web Design Toronto Tue, 18 May 2010 08:45:59 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-3449 Thank you for highly interesting observations. Thank you for highly interesting observations.

]]> By: Serendipity vs Apps | Inventing Interactive http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-3056 Serendipity vs Apps | Inventing Interactive Wed, 05 May 2010 03:43:33 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-3056 [...] an extension of an earlier post of his, The web’s design problems, where he discusses some of the deep rooted flaws in the web, and how they’ve become [...] [...] an extension of an earlier post of his, The web’s design problems, where he discusses some of the deep rooted flaws in the web, and how they’ve become [...]

]]> By: The bookpage versus the webpage « mind surgery http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-2921 The bookpage versus the webpage « mind surgery Fri, 30 Apr 2010 03:33:47 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-2921 [...] 30, 2010 Monday Note has added an interesting post about [...] [...] 30, 2010 Monday Note has added an interesting post about [...]

]]> By: Reconciling efficiency with serendipity | Monday Note http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-2881 Reconciling efficiency with serendipity | Monday Note Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:31:56 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-2881 [...] of news editing. Other editors believe in a twenty scroll-down system (see previous story The Web’s Design Problem). This arrangement has merit: it recites most of the content over and over and it is search [...] [...] of news editing. Other editors believe in a twenty scroll-down system (see previous story The Web’s Design Problem). This arrangement has merit: it recites most of the content over and over and it is search [...]

]]> By: The future of content navigation | Monday Note http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-2219 The future of content navigation | Monday Note Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:16:34 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-2219 [...] is its ability to reinvent the online advertising. As I mentioned in a previous Monday Note (see The Web Design Problem), online advertising suffers from an inherent flaw: its main purpose is to take the reader away [...] [...] is its ability to reinvent the online advertising. As I mentioned in a previous Monday Note (see The Web Design Problem), online advertising suffers from an inherent flaw: its main purpose is to take the reader away [...]

]]> By: Mike Cane http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1761 Mike Cane Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:36:43 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1761 Interesting and useful musings but you miss the point. The entire Internet is going to be overhauled with the advent of everything being touch. http://ebooktest.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/touch-will-change-everything/ If you don't believe that, consider how many sites did special ones just for the iPhone -- and how many went straight to *apps* to convey a better than web browser experience (not all successfully). Every day that I sit before a screen parallel to my face and use a mouse to select things makes it seem like I should be hearing the clop-clop-clopping of horse's hooves outside my window. It's that backward. Interesting and useful musings but you miss the point. The entire Internet is going to be overhauled with the advent of everything being touch.
http://ebooktest.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/touch-will-change-everything/
If you don’t believe that, consider how many sites did special ones just for the iPhone — and how many went straight to *apps* to convey a better than web browser experience (not all successfully). Every day that I sit before a screen parallel to my face and use a mouse to select things makes it seem like I should be hearing the clop-clop-clopping of horse’s hooves outside my window. It’s that backward.

]]> By: Mark Plenke http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1734 Mark Plenke Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:25 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1734 Here's a European Web site that has based its design on the screen rather than the page: http://www.24sata.hr/index.php Here’s a European Web site that has based its design on the screen rather than the page: http://www.24sata.hr/index.php

]]> By: Monday Noon Update 11/23/09 « Coney Media http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1733 Monday Noon Update 11/23/09 « Coney Media Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:06:38 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1733 [...] FLAWS: Three challenges to Web readability. [Monday [...] [...] FLAWS: Three challenges to Web readability. [Monday [...]

]]> By: Stephen Howard-Sarin http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1732 Stephen Howard-Sarin Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:52:22 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1732 First of all, I love Mr. Felloux's ongoing examinations of the underlying issues in the online news business. As a regular (though silent) reader, let me speak up this once to say "Bravo!" for many, many thought-provoking pieces, including this one. But.... The value chart consigning archives and old stuff to the lowest tier of CPMs is incorrect, in my experience. In 20+ years online, I've never even heard of an advertiser discriminating between old stories and new ones. How would they know, even if they had the urge? Furthermore, the aggregate page views on "old stuff" makes up the majority of page views on many content-rich sites. I'd have guessed that this is true even on the newsiest of pure-news sites, but your diagram assigned 80% of page views to "recent items." That just doesn't gibe with my experience. Lastly, it's is absolutely true that the home page of the site has the best monetization. But in Google's world, users overwhelmingly arrive on stories or topic pages. The homepage accounts for 5-10% of page views. That makes it a sweet spot, but just a spot. (Unless you are Yahoo, then you have an amazingly valuable homepage.) First of all, I love Mr. Felloux’s ongoing examinations of the underlying issues in the online news business. As a regular (though silent) reader, let me speak up this once to say “Bravo!” for many, many thought-provoking pieces, including this one.

But….

The value chart consigning archives and old stuff to the lowest tier of CPMs is incorrect, in my experience. In 20+ years online, I’ve never even heard of an advertiser discriminating between old stories and new ones. How would they know, even if they had the urge?

Furthermore, the aggregate page views on “old stuff” makes up the majority of page views on many content-rich sites. I’d have guessed that this is true even on the newsiest of pure-news sites, but your diagram assigned 80% of page views to “recent items.” That just doesn’t gibe with my experience.

Lastly, it’s is absolutely true that the home page of the site has the best monetization. But in Google’s world, users overwhelmingly arrive on stories or topic pages. The homepage accounts for 5-10% of page views. That makes it a sweet spot, but just a spot. (Unless you are Yahoo, then you have an amazingly valuable homepage.)

]]> By: El mal diseño de todas las web de periódicos | REVISTADEPRENSA.info http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1730 El mal diseño de todas las web de periódicos | REVISTADEPRENSA.info Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:00:16 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1730 [...] Pese a estar en Internet y leerse en pantallas, siguen planteándose como páginas en orientación vertical. El editor del grupo noruego Schibsted plantea dilemas y posibles soluciones al mal diseño de las webs de periódicos Sigue leyendo en Monday Note [...] [...] Pese a estar en Internet y leerse en pantallas, siguen planteándose como páginas en orientación vertical. El editor del grupo noruego Schibsted plantea dilemas y posibles soluciones al mal diseño de las webs de periódicos Sigue leyendo en Monday Note [...]

]]> By: Youssef Rahoui http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1729 Youssef Rahoui Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:54:31 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1729 "In print, the ad is actually part of the design, not an incentive to go away": very good point. “In print, the ad is actually part of the design, not an incentive to go away”: very good point.

]]> By: Helge Ogrim http://www.mondaynote.com/2009/11/22/the-webs-design-problems/#comment-1727 Helge Ogrim Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:06:04 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=2269#comment-1727 Thank you for higly interesting observations. I'm still wondering about a few things: Is not Aftonbladet.se, ie the website with the longest scroll, also (one of) the most successful of those mentioned above if measured by usagage within its demography and perhaps also financially? (It does of course differ from many of the others by commanding top position in its country.) Its design is ugly and the page is endless. The NYT prototype has no front page ads. Is that the concept, or a function of it being beta? Your thoughts on ads within the media and the Skyrock innovation in advertising innovation, are refreshing. Thank you for higly interesting observations. I’m still wondering about a few things:

Is not Aftonbladet.se, ie the website with the longest scroll, also (one of) the most successful of those mentioned above if measured by usagage within its demography and perhaps also financially? (It does of course differ from many of the others by commanding top position in its country.) Its design is ugly and the page is endless.

The NYT prototype has no front page ads. Is that the concept, or a function of it being beta?

Your thoughts on ads within the media and the Skyrock innovation in advertising innovation, are refreshing.

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