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		<title>By: SLT-A77</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-19883</link>
		<dc:creator>SLT-A77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Io in realtà programmato per discutere i vostri post è incredibilmente realistico. Scelgo di sentire qualcosa di completamente nuovo con questo account di I realmente a disposizione il sito identico nella mia Stati Uniti durante questa materia in modo specifico questo aiuto? Abbondanza tutti s. Sono riuscito a guardare bene sull&#039;argomento più notato un grande numero di blog, ma in contrasto con quella. Grazie per aver rivelato tanto all&#039;interno del vostro sito web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Io in realtà programmato per discutere i vostri post è incredibilmente realistico. Scelgo di sentire qualcosa di completamente nuovo con questo account di I realmente a disposizione il sito identico nella mia Stati Uniti durante questa materia in modo specifico questo aiuto? Abbondanza tutti s. Sono riuscito a guardare bene sull&#8217;argomento più notato un grande numero di blog, ma in contrasto con quella. Grazie per aver rivelato tanto all&#8217;interno del vostro sito web.</p>
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		<title>By: Are citizen journalists &#8220;real&#8221; journalist? &#171; PR Insight</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-17970</link>
		<dc:creator>Are citizen journalists &#8220;real&#8221; journalist? &#171; PR Insight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] both side of the argument and found this interesting quote from Frédéric Filloux, a writer for The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism, “Would you trust a Citizen Neurosurgeon to remove your kid’s neuroblastoma? No, you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] both side of the argument and found this interesting quote from Frédéric Filloux, a writer for The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism, “Would you trust a Citizen Neurosurgeon to remove your kid’s neuroblastoma? No, you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalism Of The Future: Where Is It Headed? &#171; Journalitico</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-16398</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalism Of The Future: Where Is It Headed? &#171; Journalitico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism - Written by Frédéric Filloux, this is one of my favourite pieces I&#8217;ve seen written on the topic of citizen journalism. While I&#8217;m at it I&#8217;ll redirect you to my previous post &#8220;Citizen Journalism Is Not Journalism&#8221; in case you missed it! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism - Written by Frédéric Filloux, this is one of my favourite pieces I&#8217;ve seen written on the topic of citizen journalism. While I&#8217;m at it I&#8217;ll redirect you to my previous post &#8220;Citizen Journalism Is Not Journalism&#8221; in case you missed it! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Journalism Is Not Journalism. &#171; Talking To Myself</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-16124</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Journalism Is Not Journalism. &#171; Talking To Myself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Would you trust a Citizen Neurosurgeon to remove your kid’s neuroblastoma? No, you wouldn’t.&#8221;  Frédéric Filloux (The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Would you trust a Citizen Neurosurgeon to remove your kid’s neuroblastoma? No, you wouldn’t.&#8221;  Frédéric Filloux (The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bird houses for sale</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-15493</link>
		<dc:creator>bird houses for sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 01:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey there, I would like ot thank you for posting such a useful outline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey there, I would like ot thank you for posting such a useful outline</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson Blair</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-6024</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayson Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right. Times fact-checking is CRAZY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right. Times fact-checking is CRAZY.</p>
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		<title>By: fajar</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>fajar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mantappss</description>
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		<title>By: Writing for (y)EU &#124; Online editorial models #03 &#8211; Network journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-4434</link>
		<dc:creator>Writing for (y)EU &#124; Online editorial models #03 &#8211; Network journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] every major far away catastrophy, magazines were buying amateur photographs or video footage. As Frédéric Filloux phrases it, « today Twitter has replaced the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s stop this &#8216;Curation is King&#8217; crap right now &#124; Online Journalism Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-4163</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s stop this &#8216;Curation is King&#8217; crap right now &#124; Online Journalism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8216;Curation is king&#8217; is a comfort blanket for the afflicted, a sticking plaster for injured pride. It says nothing about the new environment in which we&#8217;re operating; it suggests we do [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8216;Curation is king&#8217; is a comfort blanket for the afflicted, a sticking plaster for injured pride. It says nothing about the new environment in which we&#8217;re operating; it suggests we do [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yohan</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-4130</link>
		<dc:creator>yohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice post, thank you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice post, thank you <img src='http://www.mondaynote.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Israely: The line between &#8220;content&#8221; and &#8220;journalism,&#8221; and deciding which side I want to be on » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3856</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Israely: The line between &#8220;content&#8221; and &#8220;journalism,&#8221; and deciding which side I want to be on » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we must make clear is that our product&#8217;s professionalism, (i.e., the economic exchange and oversight that go with paying for time plus labor) comes at a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marie-Aude</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3583</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie-Aude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 09:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst is when low level blogging contaminates professional journalism. The high number of wrong death announcements on TV and in newspapers is linked to the race with blogs, and the competition for being first on google news. 

Another source of &quot;bad journalism&quot; you did not mention are what I would call &quot;aggregating blogs&quot;, one of the worst example being for me acidcow, which just spread great photo reportages without any information or context (to be compared for example with the big picture on boston.com, where photos are credited and get full legend). 

Though, blogging is also giving access to direct facts, through private people describing what they live and experience, and as long as the writer is honest in his assessments, and does not pretend his experience is absolute truth, this is one of the most powerful &quot;real&quot; information tool. 

The second thing I really appreciate in &quot;citizen journalism&quot; in blogging is the access through translating sites like voices of america, to blogs and information in languages I don&#039;t speak (equivalent to the professional Courrier International)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst is when low level blogging contaminates professional journalism. The high number of wrong death announcements on TV and in newspapers is linked to the race with blogs, and the competition for being first on google news. </p>
<p>Another source of &#8220;bad journalism&#8221; you did not mention are what I would call &#8220;aggregating blogs&#8221;, one of the worst example being for me acidcow, which just spread great photo reportages without any information or context (to be compared for example with the big picture on boston.com, where photos are credited and get full legend). </p>
<p>Though, blogging is also giving access to direct facts, through private people describing what they live and experience, and as long as the writer is honest in his assessments, and does not pretend his experience is absolute truth, this is one of the most powerful &#8220;real&#8221; information tool. </p>
<p>The second thing I really appreciate in &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; in blogging is the access through translating sites like voices of america, to blogs and information in languages I don&#8217;t speak (equivalent to the professional Courrier International)</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Big Think &#8212; The Media : Delaware Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3492</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Big Think &#8212; The Media : Delaware Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism &#8212; This is an insightful case for the continued professionalism of the news by a guy who is a tech fan (and a former editor of French Liberation). It is utterly without the rueful naval gazing of days gone by &#8212; it is a straightforward argument for professional news people and professional news venues going quite against the grain of the triumphalism of citizen journalism. This part spoke to me: In this context, Blogs range from the best to the worst. Professional blogs – either independent or hosted by traditional medias – can be the most advanced form of written journalism. Quite often, blogs produced by good journalists are as insightful as standard stories, but way more fun to read. (In France, I do know editors who wish their writers were as witty in the paper as they are on their blogs). Good bloggers sometimes border on columnists. Their work is solid, precise and, sometimes, edited; they take time to write their pieces and it shows. At the other end of the spectrum, blogs can be utterly superficial, lacking precise facts, or agenda-driven and written with a shovel. Unfortunately, both kinds of blogs are sometimes found under the same roof. In many news organizations, big and small, instead of being considered as a more modern form of journalism, the “blog” name tag is a synonym for lower expectations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism &#8212; This is an insightful case for the continued professionalism of the news by a guy who is a tech fan (and a former editor of French Liberation). It is utterly without the rueful naval gazing of days gone by &#8212; it is a straightforward argument for professional news people and professional news venues going quite against the grain of the triumphalism of citizen journalism. This part spoke to me: In this context, Blogs range from the best to the worst. Professional blogs – either independent or hosted by traditional medias – can be the most advanced form of written journalism. Quite often, blogs produced by good journalists are as insightful as standard stories, but way more fun to read. (In France, I do know editors who wish their writers were as witty in the paper as they are on their blogs). Good bloggers sometimes border on columnists. Their work is solid, precise and, sometimes, edited; they take time to write their pieces and it shows. At the other end of the spectrum, blogs can be utterly superficial, lacking precise facts, or agenda-driven and written with a shovel. Unfortunately, both kinds of blogs are sometimes found under the same roof. In many news organizations, big and small, instead of being considered as a more modern form of journalism, the “blog” name tag is a synonym for lower expectations. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turton</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3483</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 12:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is quite amusing to hear that the media operate &quot;blogs.&quot; The media do not operate blogs -- they operate columns which they call &quot;blogs&quot; hoping to exploit on the authenticity that real blogs offer. Media &quot;blogs&quot; are counterfeits, the way Sauron made orcs in imitation of elves.  

I&#039;ve been blogging on the media and its relationship to reality here in Taiwan for about five years now (among other things), and have built a blog that is popular and widely read. My experience with the international media here in Taiwan is that they do fact check and seldom make actual factual errors when they report on basic facts (for example, they never mix up monday for tuesday when reporting the date of an event) but the concentration on &quot;fact checking&quot; is a smokescreen that obscures the political bias of the international media: the media may fact check, but it never reflects on its own biases (the media position is that it has no biases, precisely because it IS the media). Errors commonly occur at the level where reporters must make a judgment about what they are seeing. Worse, as I know from bitter experience, no matter how wrong a judgment in a media report is, it is nearly impossible to get them to admit error or apply a correction. Factual errors, by contrast, are readily and easily corrected. 

&#039;Fact checking&#039; also obscures another severe problem with media presentations whether in reports or &quot;blogs&quot;, and that is their tendency to omit pertinent information. The media&#039;s problem is the fact that the news is a construct with significant omissions, not that it is erroneous. A simple example of this is the construction one often sees in articles about China and Taiwan in which the reader is informed what China thinks of Taiwan: Beijing, we&#039;re invariably told, considers Taiwan to be a territory awaiting reunification with the motherland. The reader will search in vain in all the thousands of articles that have been written in the major international English media for an article that, in the next sentence, tells you what Taiwan thinks of Beijing. That is always omitted.

A quality real blog is able to dissect a media report to show its ideological roots and biases. A quality real blog provides value-added commentary and analysis that the media won&#039;t or can&#039;t. A quality real blog thus offers both depth and authenticity. Most media &quot;blogs&quot; suck not because they are superficial or not witty or whatever, but because they never move off their (generally Establishment) biases in their discussions, simply extending the same ideological constructs to the more informal environment of a column which they label a &quot;blog&quot;. Such &quot;blogs&quot; invariably lack all the compelling qualities of good real  blogs.

I do agree that Citizen Journalism is not possible. Citizen journalism is not possible because what citizens do when they write is both different and, when of high quality, much deeper than journalism. We need our journalists, not because they have expertise, but because they have resources, and we need our real blogs. Let&#039;s not permit the media to confuse the two. 

Michael Turton
The View from Taiwan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is quite amusing to hear that the media operate &#8220;blogs.&#8221; The media do not operate blogs &#8212; they operate columns which they call &#8220;blogs&#8221; hoping to exploit on the authenticity that real blogs offer. Media &#8220;blogs&#8221; are counterfeits, the way Sauron made orcs in imitation of elves.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been blogging on the media and its relationship to reality here in Taiwan for about five years now (among other things), and have built a blog that is popular and widely read. My experience with the international media here in Taiwan is that they do fact check and seldom make actual factual errors when they report on basic facts (for example, they never mix up monday for tuesday when reporting the date of an event) but the concentration on &#8220;fact checking&#8221; is a smokescreen that obscures the political bias of the international media: the media may fact check, but it never reflects on its own biases (the media position is that it has no biases, precisely because it IS the media). Errors commonly occur at the level where reporters must make a judgment about what they are seeing. Worse, as I know from bitter experience, no matter how wrong a judgment in a media report is, it is nearly impossible to get them to admit error or apply a correction. Factual errors, by contrast, are readily and easily corrected. </p>
<p>&#8216;Fact checking&#8217; also obscures another severe problem with media presentations whether in reports or &#8220;blogs&#8221;, and that is their tendency to omit pertinent information. The media&#8217;s problem is the fact that the news is a construct with significant omissions, not that it is erroneous. A simple example of this is the construction one often sees in articles about China and Taiwan in which the reader is informed what China thinks of Taiwan: Beijing, we&#8217;re invariably told, considers Taiwan to be a territory awaiting reunification with the motherland. The reader will search in vain in all the thousands of articles that have been written in the major international English media for an article that, in the next sentence, tells you what Taiwan thinks of Beijing. That is always omitted.</p>
<p>A quality real blog is able to dissect a media report to show its ideological roots and biases. A quality real blog provides value-added commentary and analysis that the media won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t. A quality real blog thus offers both depth and authenticity. Most media &#8220;blogs&#8221; suck not because they are superficial or not witty or whatever, but because they never move off their (generally Establishment) biases in their discussions, simply extending the same ideological constructs to the more informal environment of a column which they label a &#8220;blog&#8221;. Such &#8220;blogs&#8221; invariably lack all the compelling qualities of good real  blogs.</p>
<p>I do agree that Citizen Journalism is not possible. Citizen journalism is not possible because what citizens do when they write is both different and, when of high quality, much deeper than journalism. We need our journalists, not because they have expertise, but because they have resources, and we need our real blogs. Let&#8217;s not permit the media to confuse the two. </p>
<p>Michael Turton<br />
The View from Taiwan</p>
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		<title>By: Il giornalista? Sarà sempre meno pagato &#171; EJO &#8211; European Journalism Observatory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Il giornalista? Sarà sempre meno pagato &#171; EJO &#8211; European Journalism Observatory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 09:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] è perfino coniata una nuova definizione, Citizen Journalist, che di fatto, come afferma Fréderic Filloux è una definizione in codice di contenuti gratis. Dalla provocazione innescata da Filloux è nata [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] è perfino coniata una nuova definizione, Citizen Journalist, che di fatto, come afferma Fréderic Filloux è una definizione in codice di contenuti gratis. Dalla provocazione innescata da Filloux è nata [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen journalism: un ossimoro o una definizione in codice di “contenuti gratis”? &#124; LSDI</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3477</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen journalism: un ossimoro o una definizione in codice di “contenuti gratis”? &#124; LSDI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Forensky, su ZDNet,  dedica all’ ultima MondayNote di Frédéric Filloux – The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism – un ampio articolo dal titolo “Citizen journalism is code for &#8220;free content&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Forensky, su ZDNet,  dedica all’ ultima MondayNote di Frédéric Filloux – The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism – un ampio articolo dal titolo “Citizen journalism is code for &#8220;free content&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3466</link>
		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 01:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we shouldn&#039;t have citizen doctors. I guess though we shouldn&#039;t have freelance doctors either. Or doctors who learnt on the job, via apprenticeships or in-house training. 

I guess we ought to look at licensing journalists, too. If you didn&#039;t study journalism at an approved journalism school, you shouldn&#039;t be able to practice journalism.

Or, you know, you could actually do some research into how journalists actually become journalists, and not use incredibly poor comparisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we shouldn&#8217;t have citizen doctors. I guess though we shouldn&#8217;t have freelance doctors either. Or doctors who learnt on the job, via apprenticeships or in-house training. </p>
<p>I guess we ought to look at licensing journalists, too. If you didn&#8217;t study journalism at an approved journalism school, you shouldn&#8217;t be able to practice journalism.</p>
<p>Or, you know, you could actually do some research into how journalists actually become journalists, and not use incredibly poor comparisons.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Korczynski</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Korczynski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 22:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie Drizin wrote, &quot;Real people without degrees engage in random acts of journalism all the time.&quot; Yet lacking training in the skills of reporting and writing and editing, real people create real noise far more than they create info. A million monkeys typing at keyboards may eventually produce a sonnet by Shakespear, but I don&#039;t want to read any of the noise along the way, do you? To be sure, a very few citizen journalists may function as &quot;black swans&quot; or &quot;outliers&quot; to enrich us all with novel perspectives, but we still need professional journalists to cover most info.

As Tom Foremski wisely notes, the discussion really boils down to the issue of quality. We have info and noise to varying degrees in any journalism, and the advent of electronic media players (whether computers, pod/pads, etc.) has led to fascination with the sheer variety of new media streams available (RSS fed &quot;aggrefilterbots&quot;, .flv files, chatrooms, etc.). However, this &quot;Gee wiz&quot; factor should eventually wear out, as people slowly tire of the tedium and hype and noise the comes with free media, and accept modest subscriptions to quality niche information. 

I do see the iPad/Zinio as showing one viable way forward (a very high quality experience). BTW, Jacek Utko (http://www.utko.com/) seems to show that even dead-trees can still make a profit if it&#039;s done with quality in mind. Quality leads to trust; trust leads to a relationship; a relationship leads to loyal subscribers, loyal subscribers provide a sustained business...these are timeless fundamentals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie Drizin wrote, &#8220;Real people without degrees engage in random acts of journalism all the time.&#8221; Yet lacking training in the skills of reporting and writing and editing, real people create real noise far more than they create info. A million monkeys typing at keyboards may eventually produce a sonnet by Shakespear, but I don&#8217;t want to read any of the noise along the way, do you? To be sure, a very few citizen journalists may function as &#8220;black swans&#8221; or &#8220;outliers&#8221; to enrich us all with novel perspectives, but we still need professional journalists to cover most info.</p>
<p>As Tom Foremski wisely notes, the discussion really boils down to the issue of quality. We have info and noise to varying degrees in any journalism, and the advent of electronic media players (whether computers, pod/pads, etc.) has led to fascination with the sheer variety of new media streams available (RSS fed &#8220;aggrefilterbots&#8221;, .flv files, chatrooms, etc.). However, this &#8220;Gee wiz&#8221; factor should eventually wear out, as people slowly tire of the tedium and hype and noise the comes with free media, and accept modest subscriptions to quality niche information. </p>
<p>I do see the iPad/Zinio as showing one viable way forward (a very high quality experience). BTW, Jacek Utko (<a href="http://www.utko.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.utko.com/</a>) seems to show that even dead-trees can still make a profit if it&#8217;s done with quality in mind. Quality leads to trust; trust leads to a relationship; a relationship leads to loyal subscribers, loyal subscribers provide a sustained business&#8230;these are timeless fundamentals.</p>
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		<dc:creator>L’étrange blogue de M. Atv’</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 20:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Quand j&#039;entends le mot culture…...&lt;/strong&gt;

En prenant ma dose quotidienne de Google News (je sais, c&#039;est mal), j&#039;ai noté que la rubrique Culture avait été renommée Divertissements. C&#039;est anecdotique. Mais c&#039;est peut-être aussi symptomatique....</description>
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<p>En prenant ma dose quotidienne de Google News (je sais, c&#8217;est mal), j&#8217;ai noté que la rubrique Culture avait été renommée Divertissements. C&#8217;est anecdotique. Mais c&#8217;est peut-être aussi symptomatique&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>TIME Casualties, Newsweek Funerals &#38; New Startup Biz Models. Revenue Before Branding &#171; News Launch Diary</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] case for those of us who want to offer something better to readers. Frederic Filloux, as always, boils it down nicely in his most recent Monday Note. A believer in new technology, an incisive (and entertaining) [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-05-17 &#171; 個人的な雑記</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Citizen journalism is code for "free content" - why we need a sustainable media business model &#124; ZDNet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen journalism is code for "free content" - why we need a sustainable media business model &#124; ZDNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 21:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Oxymoronic Citizen Journalism &#124; Monday Note, he writes: First, would you trust a citizen neurosurgeon to remove your kid’s neuroblastoma? No, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rhonda R Shearer</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3432</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda R Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 19:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write: &quot;A couple of weeks ago, a friend of mine sent me a remarkable piece about fact checking at the New Yorker. In a loving and witty rendition, the author, John McPhee, details how an army of minutiae-obsessed researchers will spend days to check the smallest assertions in order to remove even the palest shadow of doubt..this article really deserves to be dissected in journalism schools.&quot;

I thought it important to give you the balance of this factual information so your readers can judge for themselves if what you say is true.   

While John McPhee was writing this for New Yorker as one of their employees, you might not be aware that the New Yorker fact checkers were in big trouble over a single source story written by Pulitzer prize winner Jared Diamond, (April 21, 2008). 

Lawyers for two Papua New Guinea tribes people, who were named and called killers and worse in the story, but never called by famed fact checker to check facts before publication, demanded the removal from New Yorker&#039;s web site (they immediately complied), that has since devolved into a libel lawsuit against New Yorker magazine and Diamond in New York State Court. See our investigation http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/latest-journalism-news-updates-149.php.          

After reading the story, I became suspect of Diamond&#039;s dubious claims in his New Yorker piece--such as the existence of an Ombal tribal warrior/leader, Henep Isum, who they reported was paralyzed after his spine was cut by an assassin&#039;s arrow in 1995 revenge warfare. Incredibly, they claimed Isum was sitting in a wheelchair for 11 years in a remote New Guinea--that has no paved roads or sidewalks--with his spinal injury. 

We easily found and contacted Isum who was clearing land and walking around carrying a heavy load of dirt when our research team member found him. No wheelchair in sight. 

Not only did New Yorker and Diamond admit they never tried to contact Isum before publication, but they refused to call him afterwards even when offered his phone number--and despite the fact they were informed he was upset at being called a killer who Diamond asked why police were not called on him, in light of the truth which was Isum was a village policeman whose duty was to work for peace--he was not an Ombal warrior leader. He didn&#039;t even belong to the Ombal tribe but was a Henep tribesman as his named indicated.

So bad was the fact checking that they never even bothered to check Google maps or Papua New Guinea government web sites to confirm, for example, that village locations and districts and to learn that &quot;Ombal&quot; is far away from and not in the same political district as &quot;Nipa.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write: &#8220;A couple of weeks ago, a friend of mine sent me a remarkable piece about fact checking at the New Yorker. In a loving and witty rendition, the author, John McPhee, details how an army of minutiae-obsessed researchers will spend days to check the smallest assertions in order to remove even the palest shadow of doubt..this article really deserves to be dissected in journalism schools.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought it important to give you the balance of this factual information so your readers can judge for themselves if what you say is true.   </p>
<p>While John McPhee was writing this for New Yorker as one of their employees, you might not be aware that the New Yorker fact checkers were in big trouble over a single source story written by Pulitzer prize winner Jared Diamond, (April 21, 2008). </p>
<p>Lawyers for two Papua New Guinea tribes people, who were named and called killers and worse in the story, but never called by famed fact checker to check facts before publication, demanded the removal from New Yorker&#8217;s web site (they immediately complied), that has since devolved into a libel lawsuit against New Yorker magazine and Diamond in New York State Court. See our investigation <a href="http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/latest-journalism-news-updates-149.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/latest-journalism-news-updates-149.php</a>.          </p>
<p>After reading the story, I became suspect of Diamond&#8217;s dubious claims in his New Yorker piece&#8211;such as the existence of an Ombal tribal warrior/leader, Henep Isum, who they reported was paralyzed after his spine was cut by an assassin&#8217;s arrow in 1995 revenge warfare. Incredibly, they claimed Isum was sitting in a wheelchair for 11 years in a remote New Guinea&#8211;that has no paved roads or sidewalks&#8211;with his spinal injury. </p>
<p>We easily found and contacted Isum who was clearing land and walking around carrying a heavy load of dirt when our research team member found him. No wheelchair in sight. </p>
<p>Not only did New Yorker and Diamond admit they never tried to contact Isum before publication, but they refused to call him afterwards even when offered his phone number&#8211;and despite the fact they were informed he was upset at being called a killer who Diamond asked why police were not called on him, in light of the truth which was Isum was a village policeman whose duty was to work for peace&#8211;he was not an Ombal warrior leader. He didn&#8217;t even belong to the Ombal tribe but was a Henep tribesman as his named indicated.</p>
<p>So bad was the fact checking that they never even bothered to check Google maps or Papua New Guinea government web sites to confirm, for example, that village locations and districts and to learn that &#8220;Ombal&#8221; is far away from and not in the same political district as &#8220;Nipa.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Foremski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Foremski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 18:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizen journalists are free. The economics of the online news business (or any online content) is defined by the algorithms of Demand Media and Associated Content, which can determine the lifetime revenues of any piece of online content. The result is: not very much. 

One of the most important problems we face is how to pay for the work that goes into producing quality content, news, etc. It&#039;s the Gordian Knot of our time, if someone figures out how to slice it we all win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen journalists are free. The economics of the online news business (or any online content) is defined by the algorithms of Demand Media and Associated Content, which can determine the lifetime revenues of any piece of online content. The result is: not very much. </p>
<p>One of the most important problems we face is how to pay for the work that goes into producing quality content, news, etc. It&#8217;s the Gordian Knot of our time, if someone figures out how to slice it we all win.</p>
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		<title>By: tom b</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizen journalists can make a big difference in niche areas. I follow tech VERY closely; and area the &quot;pro&quot; journalists are pretty bad at. I&#039;ve followed Apple since the mid nineties. Everybody in the MSM wrote them off, because it takes a lot of effort to go into depth with such a complex subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen journalists can make a big difference in niche areas. I follow tech VERY closely; and area the &#8220;pro&#8221; journalists are pretty bad at. I&#8217;ve followed Apple since the mid nineties. Everybody in the MSM wrote them off, because it takes a lot of effort to go into depth with such a complex subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Drizin/@AIRMQ2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Drizin/@AIRMQ2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 14:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that something is lost in the new journalistic paradigm, but so much more is gained. I deeply value independent truth, but I think it&#039;s preposterous to compare journalism to brain surgery. There are some conventions and rules, and lives are sometimes on the line, but our work doesn&#039;t require the same level of training, risk and expertise demanded in the medical world. I can watch a million videos of surgery, but wouldn&#039;t dare try it. But people can learn much about storytelling, interviewing, constructing a narrative by watching and then trying. And what they sometimes produce is better than karaoke reporting. What&#039;s great about the new journalism is that it recognizes the importance of seeing the public as a collaborator, not just a passive recipient of information, breaking down the elitist ethos of our industry. Journalism-proper has never done a stellar job covering certain communities and certain issues. But now technology enables (and economics demands) that people can be engaged in being the media they wish to see in the world. And it&#039;s not all blogospheric blather. Citizen journalism can also aid investigative journalism, adding more eyes to reading public documents and speeding up the process. Real people without degrees engage in random acts of journalism all the time. The sky is not falling.  And if it is, we&#039;ll hear about it first on Twitter and Twitpic, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that something is lost in the new journalistic paradigm, but so much more is gained. I deeply value independent truth, but I think it&#8217;s preposterous to compare journalism to brain surgery. There are some conventions and rules, and lives are sometimes on the line, but our work doesn&#8217;t require the same level of training, risk and expertise demanded in the medical world. I can watch a million videos of surgery, but wouldn&#8217;t dare try it. But people can learn much about storytelling, interviewing, constructing a narrative by watching and then trying. And what they sometimes produce is better than karaoke reporting. What&#8217;s great about the new journalism is that it recognizes the importance of seeing the public as a collaborator, not just a passive recipient of information, breaking down the elitist ethos of our industry. Journalism-proper has never done a stellar job covering certain communities and certain issues. But now technology enables (and economics demands) that people can be engaged in being the media they wish to see in the world. And it&#8217;s not all blogospheric blather. Citizen journalism can also aid investigative journalism, adding more eyes to reading public documents and speeding up the process. Real people without degrees engage in random acts of journalism all the time. The sky is not falling.  And if it is, we&#8217;ll hear about it first on Twitter and Twitpic, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilyan</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/16/the-oxymoronic-citizen-journalism/#comment-3420</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 14:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as you may want for surgery to be the same as journalism, it is not. You may be right that citizen journalists won&#039;t displace professional reporters, only because they have already displaced them.

Those are the facts.

And the notion of people hungering for &quot;quality&quot; journalism is just wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as you may want for surgery to be the same as journalism, it is not. You may be right that citizen journalists won&#8217;t displace professional reporters, only because they have already displaced them.</p>
<p>Those are the facts.</p>
<p>And the notion of people hungering for &#8220;quality&#8221; journalism is just wishful thinking.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Rosenberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 13:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This offers some excellent perspectives on defining the evolving &quot;pro-am&quot; relationship in journalism. It echos the concept of the &quot;fifth estate&quot; that I first heard about from Poynter&#039;s Roy Peter Clark (though Clark -- in a column about a year ago http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&amp;aid=162674  -- credits a Poynter presenter as introducing the concept to him). The analogies Fredric makes about &quot;citizen surgeons&quot; almost exactly parallel some of Clark&#039;s thoughts. 

Whatever the origin of the &quot;fifth estate&quot; term, it expresses a two-fold thought: (1) that there certainly is a place in the news ecosystem for citizen journalists; but (2) to think that professionalism in journalism is passe or pointless, or can be replaced by some sort of collective wisdom of the crowds, goes overboard. Certain types of information presentation that is crucial to effective operation of the public sphere is beyond what citizen/amateur journalists can be expected to produce. (Further thoughts: http://tinyurl.com/25ap6tr )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This offers some excellent perspectives on defining the evolving &#8220;pro-am&#8221; relationship in journalism. It echos the concept of the &#8220;fifth estate&#8221; that I first heard about from Poynter&#8217;s Roy Peter Clark (though Clark &#8212; in a column about a year ago <a href="http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&amp;aid=162674" rel="nofollow">http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&amp;aid=162674</a>  &#8212; credits a Poynter presenter as introducing the concept to him). The analogies Fredric makes about &#8220;citizen surgeons&#8221; almost exactly parallel some of Clark&#8217;s thoughts. </p>
<p>Whatever the origin of the &#8220;fifth estate&#8221; term, it expresses a two-fold thought: (1) that there certainly is a place in the news ecosystem for citizen journalists; but (2) to think that professionalism in journalism is passe or pointless, or can be replaced by some sort of collective wisdom of the crowds, goes overboard. Certain types of information presentation that is crucial to effective operation of the public sphere is beyond what citizen/amateur journalists can be expected to produce. (Further thoughts: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/25ap6tr" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/25ap6tr</a> )</p>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik Holmegaard, technical writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For:

&gt; ANPA Association of Newspaper Publishers of America had a membership of 1,052 newspaper publishers printing at 852 plants

Read:

ANPA Association of Newspaper Publishers of America had a membership of 1,052 newspaper publishers printing at 852 plants in 1969.</description>
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<p>&gt; ANPA Association of Newspaper Publishers of America had a membership of 1,052 newspaper publishers printing at 852 plants</p>
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<p>ANPA Association of Newspaper Publishers of America had a membership of 1,052 newspaper publishers printing at 852 plants in 1969.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik Holmegaard, technical writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik Holmegaard, technical writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 09:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; You would not trust a citizen dentist either for your cavities ... These notions collide with the new information chain: Algorithm =&gt; Search =&gt; Filtering =&gt; Aggregation =&gt; Mashup =&gt; Social Feedback (i.e.: commenting, sharing, tweeting, blogging…). We’ve been through the hardcore part (fact-based reporting, checking, sourcing, editing). Now, let’s sort out the new jargon.

Ahem :-)

In the USA, ANPA Association of Newspaper Publishers of America had a membership of 1,052 newspaper publishers printing at 852 plants. Out of these printing plants, more than 800 printed international news by teletypesetting. In other words, 800 out of 852 printing plants published international news unchecked and unresearched from Associated Press and UPI teletypesetting services that encoded the typesetting commands to paper tape (for Intertype and Linotype) and streamed the commands to subscribers. The subscribers saved the streamed the commands back to paper tape which was then fed to the line casting machines, see Harold Evans multi-volume title on newspaper production, chapter on the typography of text setting, page 23.

AT&amp;T started a wire service in the mid-1930s and after a while AP and UPI joined. 

Daniel Lyons is provocative, but not without a point when he says that, &quot;As for all the hand-wringing about the great &quot;in-depth&quot; information that only a newspaper can provide, let&#039;s be honest: the typical daily newspaper does a lousy job. It tries to provide a little bit of everything—politics, sports, business, celebrity stuff—and as a result it doesn&#039;t do anything particularly well. Ask anyone who&#039;s an expert in anything—whether it&#039;s bicycle racing or brain surgery—what they think when they read a newspaper article about their field. Chances are they cringe, because the material is so dumbed-down, and because it&#039;s so clear that whoever wrote the article has no real expertise on this topic.&quot;

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2009/09/27/don-t-bail-out-newspapers-let-them-die-and-get-out-of-the-way.aspx

Henrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; You would not trust a citizen dentist either for your cavities &#8230; These notions collide with the new information chain: Algorithm =&gt; Search =&gt; Filtering =&gt; Aggregation =&gt; Mashup =&gt; Social Feedback (i.e.: commenting, sharing, tweeting, blogging…). We’ve been through the hardcore part (fact-based reporting, checking, sourcing, editing). Now, let’s sort out the new jargon.</p>
<p>Ahem <img src='http://www.mondaynote.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the USA, ANPA Association of Newspaper Publishers of America had a membership of 1,052 newspaper publishers printing at 852 plants. Out of these printing plants, more than 800 printed international news by teletypesetting. In other words, 800 out of 852 printing plants published international news unchecked and unresearched from Associated Press and UPI teletypesetting services that encoded the typesetting commands to paper tape (for Intertype and Linotype) and streamed the commands to subscribers. The subscribers saved the streamed the commands back to paper tape which was then fed to the line casting machines, see Harold Evans multi-volume title on newspaper production, chapter on the typography of text setting, page 23.</p>
<p>AT&amp;T started a wire service in the mid-1930s and after a while AP and UPI joined. </p>
<p>Daniel Lyons is provocative, but not without a point when he says that, &#8220;As for all the hand-wringing about the great &#8220;in-depth&#8221; information that only a newspaper can provide, let&#8217;s be honest: the typical daily newspaper does a lousy job. It tries to provide a little bit of everything—politics, sports, business, celebrity stuff—and as a result it doesn&#8217;t do anything particularly well. Ask anyone who&#8217;s an expert in anything—whether it&#8217;s bicycle racing or brain surgery—what they think when they read a newspaper article about their field. Chances are they cringe, because the material is so dumbed-down, and because it&#8217;s so clear that whoever wrote the article has no real expertise on this topic.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2009/09/27/don-t-bail-out-newspapers-let-them-die-and-get-out-of-the-way.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2009/09/27/don-t-bail-out-newspapers-let-them-die-and-get-out-of-the-way.aspx</a></p>
<p>Henrik</p>
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