Comments on: Navigation’s Destination http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/ Media, Tech & Business Models Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:40:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Dsquared2 Clothing http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-16258 Dsquared2 Clothing Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:38:58 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-16258 thanks for sharing.I enjoy it. thanks for sharing.I enjoy it.

]]> By: jim http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-15945 jim Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:32:17 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-15945 We have a speed limit overlay that is partially crowdsourced. Avail for html5, android, whatever. 27 million signs worldwide. ".org" so you know its not full of ads. WikiSPEEDia.org We have a speed limit overlay that is partially crowdsourced. Avail for html5, android, whatever.

27 million signs worldwide. “.org” so you know its not full of ads.

WikiSPEEDia.org

]]> By: roger tomson http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-14942 roger tomson Fri, 13 May 2011 00:30:10 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-14942 It’s very good. It’s very good.

]]> By: Robert http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10808 Robert Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:19:37 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10808 "Wehrmacht staff cars" - seriously? “Wehrmacht staff cars” – seriously?

]]> By: Frato http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10494 Frato Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:06:58 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10494 Have you heard of Waze (http://world.waze.com/) for crowdsourced mapping and traffic alerts ? Have you heard of Waze (http://world.waze.com/) for crowdsourced mapping and traffic alerts ?

]]> By: Offline http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10471 Offline Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:58:59 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10471 You kids realize that with the latest Google Maps on Android, it works offline too? Cuts down drastically on roaming charges. You load your route while you have WiFi and then hit the road. You can also download the map for the area you are going the same way. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/next-generation-of-mobile-maps.html And yes, still free. No monthly or yearly charges. You kids realize that with the latest Google Maps on Android, it works offline too? Cuts down drastically on roaming charges. You load your route while you have WiFi and then hit the road. You can also download the map for the area you are going the same way.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/next-generation-of-mobile-maps.html

And yes, still free. No monthly or yearly charges.

]]> By: PXLated http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10451 PXLated Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:11:11 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10451 @imagine - I'm the exact opposite, I can live without Google (except for maps - maybe). The coverage in areas I travel are bad so the cloud isn't an option I can rely on. And to be honest, google cloud apps pale in comparison to my app versions so not sure I'd use even if I had ubiquitous broadband. @imagine – I’m the exact opposite, I can live without Google (except for maps – maybe). The coverage in areas I travel are bad so the cloud isn’t an option I can rely on. And to be honest, google cloud apps pale in comparison to my app versions so not sure I’d use even if I had ubiquitous broadband.

]]> By: imagine http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10444 imagine Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:48:02 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10444 i think my next phone is going to be an android. as much as i love the sexiness of iphone, i can live without apple. google i cannot. from gmail to maps to search, everything is baked into the os and superior to the experience on iphone. i think my next phone is going to be an android. as much as i love the sexiness of iphone, i can live without apple. google i cannot. from gmail to maps to search, everything is baked into the os and superior to the experience on iphone.

]]> By: Murando http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10435 Murando Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:21:46 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10435 You forgot one major problem of the cloud in Europe: Roaming costs. Traveling 20 km south of my home I am in another country: "no-stopping border" for human beings but for bits and bytes a really expensive one. 50 KB (!) are US$ 0,22 You forgot one major problem of the cloud in Europe: Roaming costs. Traveling 20 km south of my home I am in another country: “no-stopping border” for human beings but for bits and bytes a really expensive one. 50 KB (!) are US$ 0,22

]]> By: DD http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10409 DD Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:12:42 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10409 Why TomTom and not Navigon? I use Navigon (here in N. America) and it works great. No data connection required, has turn-by-turn navigation and lots of Points of Interest. Doesn't require any additional hardware. Well worth the money... DD Why TomTom and not Navigon? I use Navigon (here in N. America) and it works great. No data connection required, has turn-by-turn navigation and lots of Points of Interest. Doesn’t require any additional hardware. Well worth the money…

DD

]]> By: Henry Sinn http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10385 Henry Sinn Tue, 11 Jan 2011 06:29:06 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10385 Forgot: AND They now own Trapster Forgot:
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They now own Trapster

]]> By: Henry Sinn http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10384 Henry Sinn Tue, 11 Jan 2011 06:27:32 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10384 Hmm.. In my opinion Nokia wins. No contest. Why? Because the only time we really want navigation services is when we are away from home. When we are away from home [travelling] we find ourselves roaming [data networks]... EXPENSIVE! . The Navteq maps on the Nokia devices are comprehensive and up to date [if you ever plug your phone into your computer and / or do updates] and are stored locally therefore NOT requiring an active data connection. AND They are free with the phone [put your $99 --> many hundreds of dollars to better use] AND You can sort out all your travel plans and destination in the comfort of a chair and a PC [maps.ovi.com] before you travel [then a quick sync with phone and your off] PS. I don't work for Nokia. Hmm..
In my opinion Nokia wins. No contest.
Why? Because the only time we really want navigation services is when we are away from home.
When we are away from home [travelling] we find ourselves roaming [data networks]… EXPENSIVE! .
The Navteq maps on the Nokia devices are comprehensive and up to date [if you ever plug your phone into your computer and / or do updates] and are stored locally therefore NOT requiring an active data connection.
AND
They are free with the phone [put your $99 --> many hundreds of dollars to better use]
AND
You can sort out all your travel plans and destination in the comfort of a chair and a PC [maps.ovi.com] before you travel [then a quick sync with phone and your off]

PS. I don’t work for Nokia.

]]> By: Leo http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10367 Leo Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:01:39 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10367 On another point, it's strange your Tom Tom App didn't know E70 between San Sebastian and Bilbao. The map on their website does. Must be have been a serious update problem when they created the app. As for the superiority of a permanently updated (?) Google map on Android phones, my experience is when you leave the major thoroughfares you are left to dry in the Sun (weather permitting) for lack of a 3G signal. Nice as the landscape may be, you are safer driving in the Cevennes of Alentejo with a standalone Tom Tom than with a Samsung Galaxy S. Achilles heel of mobile tech: the laws of physics. At the frequencies used, you need a close transmitter tower. On another point, it’s strange your Tom Tom App didn’t know E70 between San Sebastian and Bilbao. The map on their website does. Must be have been a serious update problem when they created the app.
As for the superiority of a permanently updated (?) Google map on Android phones, my experience is when you leave the major thoroughfares you are left to dry in the Sun (weather permitting) for lack of a 3G signal. Nice as the landscape may be, you are safer driving in the Cevennes of Alentejo with a standalone Tom Tom than with a Samsung Galaxy S.
Achilles heel of mobile tech: the laws of physics. At the frequencies used, you need a close transmitter tower.

]]> By: Leo http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10365 Leo Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:38:27 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10365 Tom Tom also has crowd sourcing on its home brewed devices. Touch the screen and all other happy Tom Tom campers know there is a malevolent gendarme with a laser speed gun round the bend. It works through a gsm connexion. It's the Coyote deal. But the icing on the cake is that the same service buys you instant traffic monitoring and re-routing. Traffic is monitored real time buy analyzing the gsm signals from Vodafone (and SFR in France) subscribers driving on the roads. Must be a nice piece of software. That is really worth the 70€ yearly subscription.... and Tome Tom will not survive if they don't build a healthy service revenue stream. Sounds very familiar for all IT industry veterans. Tom Tom also has crowd sourcing on its home brewed devices. Touch the screen and all other happy Tom Tom campers know there is a malevolent gendarme with a laser speed gun round the bend. It works through a gsm connexion. It’s the Coyote deal. But the icing on the cake is that the same service buys you instant traffic monitoring and re-routing. Traffic is monitored real time buy analyzing the gsm signals from Vodafone (and SFR in France) subscribers driving on the roads. Must be a nice piece of software. That is really worth the 70€ yearly subscription…. and Tome Tom will not survive if they don’t build a healthy service revenue stream. Sounds very familiar for all IT industry veterans.

]]> By: Jay http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10362 Jay Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:11:40 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10362 UREKA! For awhile now I've been wondering why Google is working on a self-driving car, and for some reason the light bulb just went off. They want to reduce the cost of those "odd-looking mapping vehicles" that sweep the globe, wherein the expense of the human driver must even exceed the fuel and hardware expense. Thanks for another informative post. UREKA! For awhile now I’ve been wondering why Google is working on a self-driving car, and for some reason the light bulb just went off. They want to reduce the cost of those “odd-looking mapping vehicles” that sweep the globe, wherein the expense of the human driver must even exceed the fuel and hardware expense. Thanks for another informative post.

]]> By: Les posen http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10342 Les posen Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:00:10 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10342 For uptodate crowd sourcing for iPhone and iPad look at the Trapster app and community. For uptodate crowd sourcing for iPhone and iPad look at the Trapster app and community.

]]> By: PXLated http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10316 PXLated Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:52:43 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10316 When I bought my last vehicle (2008) it had built in nav ($2,500 system) - I wanted everything but and the dealer was nice enough to ripped it out and sold me the Jeep without. Tech and display tech changes at a much more rapid pace than vehicles. Everything on a car is old by the time it's sold. I'll never buy built-in, only add ons or handhelds. When I bought my last vehicle (2008) it had built in nav ($2,500 system) – I wanted everything but and the dealer was nice enough to ripped it out and sold me the Jeep without.
Tech and display tech changes at a much more rapid pace than vehicles. Everything on a car is old by the time it’s sold. I’ll never buy built-in, only add ons or handhelds.

]]> By: Jim Zellmer http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10308 Jim Zellmer Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:05:41 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10308 Your note reminded me to writeup my recent GPS induced comedy moment in Florence: http://www.zmetro.com/archives/019392.php On balance, GPS is a huge blessing, but it, like any technology has its challenges. I used my iPhone's map app a number of times, but it, too had a few challenges. Your note reminded me to writeup my recent GPS induced comedy moment in Florence:

http://www.zmetro.com/archives/019392.php

On balance, GPS is a huge blessing, but it, like any technology has its challenges. I used my iPhone’s map app a number of times, but it, too had a few challenges.

]]> By: Atv' http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/01/09/navigation%e2%80%99s-destination/#comment-10282 Atv' Sun, 09 Jan 2011 17:18:29 +0000 http://www.mondaynote.com/?p=3364#comment-10282 In France, Google Maps uses TeleAtlas data ("données cartographiques © TeleAtlas" is displayed at the bottom of the map when the map includes only French territory). In France, Google Maps uses TeleAtlas data (“données cartographiques © TeleAtlas” is displayed at the bottom of the map when the map includes only French territory).

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