by Jean-Louis Gassée
Where have we heard a similar mantra? Despite their apparent divorce from Microsoft, it sounds like HP’s brains have been infected with a mutation of the “Windows Everywhere” virus.
Let’s recap.
Late April 2010, HP acquires Palm for $1.2B. In July 2010, then-CEO Mark Hurd tells us he didn’t buy WebOS just for smartphones, but also for printers and tablets:
“We didn’t buy Palm to be in the smartphone business. And I tell people that, but it doesn’t seem to resonate well. We bought it for the IP. The WebOS is one of the two ground-up pieces of software that is built as a web operating environment [...] We have tens of millions of HP small form factor web-connected devices [...] Now imagine that being a web-connected environment where now you can get a common look and feel and a common set of services laid against that environment. That is a very value proposition.”
This sends two messages:
- No more Windows Mobile or Windows Phone 7, we “go Apple’’. We’ll own the entire hardware/software combo. (Contrast this with Nokia which is heading in the opposite direction, abandoning Symbian to “go Microsoft”, literally this time.)
- We’ll put WebOS everywhere: tens of millions of HP small form factor web-connected devices.
Mark Hurd steps on a mine, moves to Oracle and, in September 2010, HP gets a new CEO, Leo Apotheker.
Does he change strategy?
Not at all. On February 9th, HP announced its WebOS tablet, the TouchPad, and two smartphones, the Pre 3 and the neat-looking, diminutive Veer.
These products haven’t shipped yet. We’re told “Summer” for the TouchPad and Pre3, and “Spring” for the Veer. I hope to get my mitts on them as soon as I can. I’m intrigued: How will the HP devices fare in a market where Google/Android, RIM, and Apple keep strengthening their positions? To borrow from Stephen Elop’s “Burning Platforms” memo, this is no longer is a war of platforms, it’s a war of ecosystems:
“The battle of devices has now become a war of ecosystems, where ecosystems include not only the hardware and software of the device, but developers, applications, e-commerce, advertising, search, social applications, location-based services, unified communications and many other things.”
Regarding product details and the agility of the UI, HP’s announcement is enticing…but little is said about the company’s plans to build a viable universe around these new devices. Perhaps the plan is to announce the products early so developers, content providers, and channels have enough time to evaluate the opportunity and, if committed, be ready when the products ship.
This week, Leo Apotheker went one step further. On page 2 of a meaty Bloomberg Businessweek article, we learn that “… starting next year, every one of the PCs shipped by HP will include the ability to run WebOS in addition to Microsoft Corp.’s Windows… The move is aimed at enticing software developers to create a wider range of applications that would differentiate HP PCs, printers, tablets and phones from those sold by rivals.”
On the surface, WebOS developers will have the tens of millions of PCs and laptops HP sells every year as targets for their applications. More devices, bigger opportunity.
But the reality is much more complicated.
First, is this an either/or proposition, run Windows or run WebOS? Or is this a quickboot arrangement similar to Splashtop, a customized Linux software packages that boots in 5 seconds or so, versus the minute or more it takes with Windows. (I checked, after more than a minute no have apps have loaded on my Dell netbook.)
With Splashtop, you can quickly take a look at web pages or Gmail, but you still need to boot into Windows if you want to run Office applications. Splashtop doesn’t appear to be gaining much traction. Early adopters such as Asus (and HP) don’t seem eager to make it a standard offering on their products.
We also have virtual machine solutions such as Parallels and VMware Fusion. These products run Windows within a Mac — and they do a pretty good job of it in my experience. The dueling OSs now both use Intel chips and the virtual machine lets you use both without rebooting.
Rebooting annoys users. Very few use such a procedure — hence the popularity of virtual machines. If users won’t reboot, there’s no opportunity for developers. This leads me to believe that the WebOS “graft” on the HP PCs will be more like a quickboot proposition where you’d first boot into WebOS, and then into Windows. Or, as HP might discreetly hope, you’d boot into WebOS and stay there. If the user finds enough useful applications in the WebOS environment, why boot Windows?
Then we have the Intel chip problem: WebOS and its applications run on ARM hardware. This would force HP to develop and maintain two versions of its OS. It’s feasible, but it adds complexity, costs, and bugs. And for developers, it’s far from ideal: WebOS applications would have to run on two processors and on an indeterminate number of form factors: netbooks, laptops, tablets, printers. (Digressing again on Nokia: The number of target devices and form factors is what caused Nokia to buy TrollTech for Qt, its cross-device development tools and UI. With the MicroNokia deal, Qt is no longer strategic and will be sold to Digia.)
But wait, there’s more. At CES this year, Steve Ballmer announced that the next version of Windows (8?) will be ported to ARM. This is Microsoft’s likely path back into the tablet market it lost to Apple and the coming wave of Android tablets. If we are to believe Bloomberg, an ARM-based Microsoft tablet will be available for the 2012 back-to-school season.
Is this what Leo Apotheker had in mind when he mentioned WebOS on PCs?
If so, here is how the HP PC scene could look like “sometime” in 2012:
- Intel-based PCs and laptops running the “mature” Windows 7.
- ARM-based laptop and netbooks on Windows 8?
- Tablets using a version of Windows 8 with a touch interface?
- Some, but not all, “will include the ability to run WebOS in addition to Microsoft Corp.’s Windows”
Simple, easy to understand. Can you imagine what the sneers and the giggles, at Apple and Google, when looking at such a picture?
On Monday March 14th, HP’s CEO will outline his vision in greater detail.
Understandably, he wants to “decommoditize” HP’s PCS, he’s looking for a way out of the life as a Microsoft serf. PC makers are racing to the bottom, a race Leo Apotheker knows he can’t win. Hence “WebOS Everywhere”: a way for HP to better its destiny.
But another “everywhere’’ story won’t work.
Let’s hope he’ll explain instead where WebOS will focus and how it’ll make a difference for customers and app developers.
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It’s sad to see people like Apotheker treating WebOS as some magic pixie dust. Just as Windows was never designed to run without keyboard+mouse, WebOS and its ilk (Android, iOS, etc.) won’t work well with keyboard+mouse as primary input. Unless HP starts to ship all of their PCs with multi-touch screens, the announcement shows a lack of understanding. Do they expect prospective WebOS developers to not realize this?
I think folks are finally getting it. In the post-PC world, there needs to be tight coordination between software and hardware. Even Google can’t control the fragmentation that results when separating these.
And I think this is the end game that the Elop-Balmer Microkia “merger” is targeting. Microsoft realizes they need to make both hardware and software. If I were Samsung or HTC I would SO bail on WP7. Why should I do Microkia’s seed development just so they can lock me out later on?
The other fully integrated competitors are HP and RIM.
It remains to be seen if HP is in too late. The push to put WebOS on PCs is indeed a way to try to raise the competitiveness of WebOS in the eyes of developers and keep their ecosystem from being stillborn. But even beyond the reboot or not issue is the issue of form factor. If anyone could pull this off, it would be Apple. But would even iOS work on a MacBook? I don’t think so. MacOS on an iPad? Certainly not. So what chance is there that Windows 7 or 8 and WebOS can coexist on the same form factor? It’s like flying cars. If they could be done well, we’d have them by now. But the combination always ends up stupid. A bad car. A bad airplane.
With RIM, the question will be do they eventually develop an OS and devices that can compete with the iOS user excperience? Or do they simply specialize in their interface and live with the market share? Or do they fail?
Me? I’m long in AAPL.
Applications written for webOS are coded with HTML, CSS, JavaScript and a few extensions. So having them run on an Intel webOS should be no work or close to that for third parties. The different form factors are another story altogether. And this is key to the experience. Nobody runs iPhone apps on iPads even though you can.
Been reading your notes for well 2 years now and always enjoyed it and learned much from it and very much agreed (not simply because I get easily influenced, since i read other good papers too), but for the first time, I am not convinced.
Why so much drama and speculation over some unlikely, messy four-fold ecosystem “sometime in 2012″? It won’t be more complicated than what Apple had to go through to arrive to first gen of iphone and ipad (+ the revamping of the Mac line).
The mainframe changed after (because of) the arrival of the PC. The PC will change after (because of) the arrival of post PC devices (smart phones, tablets, …)
These are interesting times!
The MacBook Air (without drives and with a relatively large touchpad) seems to be already on its way to the era of the post PC devices PC and the name ‘Lion’, seems to hint at the end of a series.
Will HP be a leader in this movement? I doubt it, but I would be delighted to be proved wrong! I like webOS.
Here’s a question: How many years will it be before Mac OS runs on ARM chips?
2013… 2015???
An overlooked issue is brick & mortar distribution and availablility. I stopped in J&R — one of NYC’s largest indie electronics retailers — this weekend specifically to see and fondle the new Touchsmart 310, the one with the collapsible angled screen. And they didn’t have it!
The “ecosystem” includes support for doofless users like me. Support a la Apple Store “genius bar” or even the regular sales folks on the floor or phone. You have a question, they have the answer, or tell you how to get it.
Support with HP? Hah! We’ve been HP printer users for many years. Our latest one won’t print checks. Won’t pick up the paper cleanly. Why? Can’t figure it out via HP “Help” or Google searches. We gave up. Replaced the HP with a Brother on recommendation from my favorite expert. He said even if he could figure it out, it would cost less just to buy a new printer.
That’s no way to run an ecosystem.
mvh
Invisible virtual machine – safer web browsing.
If an installed virtual machine was included in Windows or Mac OS X; for example on a future HP PC with Windows 7 preloaded and WebOs installed as a virtual machine, Mr. Apotheker’s problem for WebOs on a PC would be solved. (Especially if the virtual machine is made “invisible” to the user). Ubuntu set for 512 MB memory runs perfectly fast on a Mac or Windows PC (with enough memory) as a virtual machine, and the snapshots make virtual machines a safe choice for web browsing and web credit card transactions. (Just return to the snapshot made before the credit card transaction). Soon we have more PC’s standard with super fast SSD’s and start up times will be much faster for Windows or Mac OS X with a speedy SSD’s than with a HDD. Mac Lion will probably start up faster than Snow Leopard, and the success of iPad, iPhone etc. will make more consumers familiar with Mac software. No need for the awful and frustrating need to relearn the interface, as with each new Windows version, Linus Torvald rightly pointed this out some years ago in an interview. WebOs will perhaps be a small program and so could run fast in a virtual machine on a PC. But, are we really waiting to learn yet another PC operating system? With iPhone iPad (Android?) etc. we are moving to simpler intuitive interfaces, exactly where the much tortured PC user likes to be, I guess.
If it takes your Dell netbook over a minute to load, you need to either get a new system, or remove the non-Windows/Microsoft drivers that are causing it to load slowly.
Your wink-wink intimation that that is a fault of Windows is totally wrong, and infra dig.
@John.Obeto: I took the machine out of the box from Dell. Bought from Microsoft, yes, their on-line store. No modification. No intimation, just the facts a normal user experiences. Why should a normal user have to remove drivers from a factory-fresh machine? JLG
There you go again…
You are conflating the issues inherrent with a factory-standard machine with all the crapware installed on it with the user experience you get with Windows.
The startup issues preventing a faster boot are due to the numerous autostart software your hardware vendor pre-installed on your netbook.
Not Microsoft.
In other words, it is NOT a Windows issue, or indicative of Windows performance.
Any other conclusion is factually incorrect.
“Why should a normal user have to remove drivers from a factory-fresh machine?”
Simple. To make the system run more efficiently.
@John.Obeto: Two things. Normal users don’t know how ro remove drivers and other crapware. Second, it is a problem caused by MS allowing such practices while being strict on others.
@Fred: Thanks for the kind words… You’re right, Apple went through challenging transitions. This said, they never piled up two OS on one machine, let alone put (WebOS) developers in a situation where the must develop for multiple form factors and UI models: conventional desktop PC, PC with TouchSmart screen as available today from HP, Windows 8 ARM tablet, pure WebOS tablet, WebOS smartphone, laptops, netbooks. I’m sure reason will prevail and the “everywhere” motto will be watered down. JLG
@ Marcos Kirsch: Yes, the WebOS programming model is clever and wil extend to several devices. See my comment @ Fred re. multiple devices and the design issues they present. Apple isn’t proposing to run OS X apps on “100 million” iOS devices and vice versatile iOS apps on (the much smaller number of) Macs.
@ Marcos Kirsch: Yes, the WebOS programming model is clever and wil extend to several devices. See my comment @ Fred re. multiple devices and the design issues they present. Apple isn’t proposing to run OS X apps on “100 million” iOS devices and vice versatile iOS apps on (the much smaller number of) Macs. jlg
@ pk de cville: See http://bit.ly/fnT6re for some thoughts re. Mac on ARM. 2012, 2013? Not sure. Can you imagine Apple selling both x86 Macs for high end media apps and ARM Macs for less demanding tasks? ARM processors would have to provide the same throughput as x86 chips at the time, just like x86 chips provided similar throughput as PowerPC processors when Apple made the shift. Today’s ARM advantage is power dissipation and SOC customization, something Intel keeps saying they’ll provide but don’t – at this time, they might evolve under pressure…
@Gassée: “Second, it is a problem caused by MS allowing such practices while being strict on others.”
I know you must be vary aware that what Microsoft can and can not tell PC manufacturers to load on the machines are subject to strict guidelines from the US Department of Justice, which has only ended oversight last month. And among the things they couldn’t do is tell manufacturers that they can’t install additional software for any reason. So stop being disingenuous about this.
Yes, the WebOS programming model is clever and wil extend to several devices.
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