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		<title>By: Craig Schwebel</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-16341</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Schwebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wayne Barcomb</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-15614</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Barcomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 11:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long time NYTimes reader, I have finally said the hell with it. It&#039;s myriad of options to subscribe have become too complicated, too expensive, and given the paper&#039;s left wing content, not worth either the money or the time. The Times is heading unerringly towards extinction, and when that happens, the country and the world will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time NYTimes reader, I have finally said the hell with it. It&#8217;s myriad of options to subscribe have become too complicated, too expensive, and given the paper&#8217;s left wing content, not worth either the money or the time. The Times is heading unerringly towards extinction, and when that happens, the country and the world will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjuana Gabriela Galvez Galvan</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-12316</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjuana Gabriela Galvez Galvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Hernandez: Problem is, that doesn&#039;t make us want to get it online. It makes us angry and find a quick, simple solution that cracks paywalls open. It&#039;s very easy and convenient. Many web browsers have a special feature that can be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Hernandez: Problem is, that doesn&#8217;t make us want to get it online. It makes us angry and find a quick, simple solution that cracks paywalls open. It&#8217;s very easy and convenient. Many web browsers have a special feature that can be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Reader Shared Items 2011-04-04 &#8211; Elsewhere in Dreams</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-12017</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Reader Shared Items 2011-04-04 &#8211; Elsewhere in Dreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 03:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jean-Louis Gassée attempts to elucidate the entirety of The Times’s new rules for accessing its d... — what do you get for free, and what do you get for how much when you pay. It takes him eight paragraphs and 350 words. He concludes that it’s simply too complicated: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jean-Louis Gassée attempts to elucidate the entirety of The Times’s new rules for accessing its d&#8230; — what do you get for free, and what do you get for how much when you pay. It takes him eight paragraphs and 350 words. He concludes that it’s simply too complicated: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: At what price, pricing complexity? Pricing and the customer experience - Voices of CRM</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11960</link>
		<dc:creator>At what price, pricing complexity? Pricing and the customer experience - Voices of CRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its digital subscription plan, which begins today, it was met with a fair bit of skepticism and confusion. If it fails to live up to expectations, it will probably be seen as yet another nail in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pricing Problems and The New York Times Digital Subscription &#124; iTAX &#8211; tax news</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11892</link>
		<dc:creator>Pricing Problems and The New York Times Digital Subscription &#124; iTAX &#8211; tax news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its digital subscription plan, which begins today, it was met with a fair bit of skepticism and confusion. If it fails to live up to expectations, it will probably be seen as yet another nail in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] its digital subscription plan, which begins today, it was met with a fair bit of skepticism and confusion. If it fails to live up to expectations, it will probably be seen as yet another nail in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 向苹果学习：简明的定价策略有多重要？ &#171; 苹果I派党</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11804</link>
		<dc:creator>向苹果学习：简明的定价策略有多重要？ &#171; 苹果I派党</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jean－Louis Gasses（前苹果高管、BeOS创始人）曾试图解读访问纽约时报数字化内容的全部政策－－哪些你是可以免费获取的，哪些是要付费的，要付多少费。这项解读花费了他8个段落和350个词。他的结论就是，这些政策简直太复杂了： [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jean－Louis Gasses（前苹果高管、BeOS创始人）曾试图解读访问纽约时报数字化内容的全部政策－－哪些你是可以免费获取的，哪些是要付费的，要付多少费。这项解读花费了他8个段落和350个词。他的结论就是，这些政策简直太复杂了： [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 要向苹果学习其简明的定价策略 &#124; 品味IT</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11796</link>
		<dc:creator>要向苹果学习其简明的定价策略 &#124; 品味IT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jean－Louis Gasses（前苹果高管、BeOS创始人）曾试图解读访问纽约时报数字化内容的全部政策－－哪些你是可以免费获取的，哪些是要付费的，要付多少费。这项解读花费了他8个段落和350个词。他的结论就是，这些政策简直太复杂了： [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jean－Louis Gasses（前苹果高管、BeOS创始人）曾试图解读访问纽约时报数字化内容的全部政策－－哪些你是可以免费获取的，哪些是要付费的，要付多少费。这项解读花费了他8个段落和350个词。他的结论就是，这些政策简直太复杂了： [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 向苹果学习：简明的定价策略有多重要？ &#124; NeXT</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11774</link>
		<dc:creator>向苹果学习：简明的定价策略有多重要？ &#124; NeXT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jean－Louis Gasses曾试图解读访问纽约时报数字化内容的全部政策－－哪些你是可以免费获取的，哪些是要付费的，要付多少费。这项解读花费了他8个段落和350个词。他的结论就是，这些政策简直太复杂了： [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jean－Louis Gasses曾试图解读访问纽约时报数字化内容的全部政策－－哪些你是可以免费获取的，哪些是要付费的，要付多少费。这项解读花费了他8个段落和350个词。他的结论就是，这些政策简直太复杂了： [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hangingtogether.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What We’re Reading — Week of March 21, 2011</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11758</link>
		<dc:creator>hangingtogether.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What We’re Reading — Week of March 21, 2011</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The NY Times: Un-Free At Last! &#124; Monday Note One of the clearer commentaries on the NYT’s new paywall and why &#8220;Keep it Simple, Stupid&#8221; is so important. I’m just glad I still have my print subscription to the Sunday Times. (Karen) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The NY Times: Un-Free At Last! | Monday Note One of the clearer commentaries on the NYT’s new paywall and why &#8220;Keep it Simple, Stupid&#8221; is so important. I’m just glad I still have my print subscription to the Sunday Times. (Karen) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11755</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;future “Dark Side of the Moon,” or “Thriller” albums are not going to be recorded on budgets funded by 99-cent singles as opposed to complete album sales.&quot;

Now I think you are the one overestimating costs. Those might have taken a small fortune to record and mix in the pre-digital era, but now any kid in his basement can get the same sound quality for basically free. The cost, of course, lies in the content creator(s) making the sounds in the first place. But the other production costs are dramatically lower now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;future “Dark Side of the Moon,” or “Thriller” albums are not going to be recorded on budgets funded by 99-cent singles as opposed to complete album sales.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I think you are the one overestimating costs. Those might have taken a small fortune to record and mix in the pre-digital era, but now any kid in his basement can get the same sound quality for basically free. The cost, of course, lies in the content creator(s) making the sounds in the first place. But the other production costs are dramatically lower now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tat</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11732</link>
		<dc:creator>Tat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever=Even.</description>
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		<title>By: Tat</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11731</link>
		<dc:creator>Tat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever your suggestion is too complicated.

$1 per week. Pay as you go.

or

$40 per year. Auto-renewed.

What they&#039;re missing is that we (average consumers) will pay a small meaningless amount easily, casually, and there are 100x more of us than there are people willing to pay $15 per week, or whatever.

Look at the app store. Learn. Adapt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever your suggestion is too complicated.</p>
<p>$1 per week. Pay as you go.</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>$40 per year. Auto-renewed.</p>
<p>What they&#8217;re missing is that we (average consumers) will pay a small meaningless amount easily, casually, and there are 100x more of us than there are people willing to pay $15 per week, or whatever.</p>
<p>Look at the app store. Learn. Adapt.</p>
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		<title>By: Times Paywall: What He Said &#124; One Stop News Stand</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11726</link>
		<dc:creator>Times Paywall: What He Said &#124; One Stop News Stand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 06:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Times&#8217; paywall pricing scheme is confusing, complicated, and expensive beyond reason. Even full-time media/tech/business pundits  can&#8217;t quite work out all the details. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Times&#8217; paywall pricing scheme is confusing, complicated, and expensive beyond reason. Even full-time media/tech/business pundits  can&#8217;t quite work out all the details. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11721</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think readers way overestimate the costs of printing, paper, and delivery and underestimate the profit pressures publishers face as they transition. 
The costs of print are high, yes, but for many publishers they are not necessarily a lot higher than the 30 percent that Apple charges just for giving you access to its audience. Add in the technology costs for development and maintenance of new delivery systems and the NYT is suddenly giving 40 percent off the top on a digital subscription.
To make matters worse, advertisers are not willing to pay as much for those digital readers as for print readers. Ads that are useful and relevant to readers in the New York Times, or Fortune, or Vogue, come across as interruptive on a screen. Top quality print journalism is not really going to happen at iTunes prices, just as future &quot;Dark Side of the Moon,&quot; or &quot;Thriller&quot; albums are not going to be recorded on budgets funded by 99-cent singles as opposed to complete album sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think readers way overestimate the costs of printing, paper, and delivery and underestimate the profit pressures publishers face as they transition.<br />
The costs of print are high, yes, but for many publishers they are not necessarily a lot higher than the 30 percent that Apple charges just for giving you access to its audience. Add in the technology costs for development and maintenance of new delivery systems and the NYT is suddenly giving 40 percent off the top on a digital subscription.<br />
To make matters worse, advertisers are not willing to pay as much for those digital readers as for print readers. Ads that are useful and relevant to readers in the New York Times, or Fortune, or Vogue, come across as interruptive on a screen. Top quality print journalism is not really going to happen at iTunes prices, just as future &#8220;Dark Side of the Moon,&#8221; or &#8220;Thriller&#8221; albums are not going to be recorded on budgets funded by 99-cent singles as opposed to complete album sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian S Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11720</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian S Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I smell a deal. Is money flowing from Mountain View to Manhattan...&quot;
Wow. I sure would like to know more about this if true.

As for pricing the online content, I want to agree with other readers here. It&#039;s deliberate. A confusing three card monty that ensures people will continue to pay for print, maybe even opt for print even though they have been getting the digital content for free.

I want to agree, but can&#039;t. Some of these old world companies simply are not capable of making decisions from the user&#039;s perspective, no matter how hard they try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I smell a deal. Is money flowing from Mountain View to Manhattan&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Wow. I sure would like to know more about this if true.</p>
<p>As for pricing the online content, I want to agree with other readers here. It&#8217;s deliberate. A confusing three card monty that ensures people will continue to pay for print, maybe even opt for print even though they have been getting the digital content for free.</p>
<p>I want to agree, but can&#8217;t. Some of these old world companies simply are not capable of making decisions from the user&#8217;s perspective, no matter how hard they try.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now after reading many other comments and writers about the NYT paywall, I agree that the explanation for the complexity is as simple as it seems.

The NYT does not want people to read it online.  They want you to realize it&#039;s simpler just to get the printed version and be done with it.

By making the online approach messy, you get the feeling you&#039;ll be missing out on something one way or another, and the printed version is guaranteed to have ALL of what the NYT offers.  So simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now after reading many other comments and writers about the NYT paywall, I agree that the explanation for the complexity is as simple as it seems.</p>
<p>The NYT does not want people to read it online.  They want you to realize it&#8217;s simpler just to get the printed version and be done with it.</p>
<p>By making the online approach messy, you get the feeling you&#8217;ll be missing out on something one way or another, and the printed version is guaranteed to have ALL of what the NYT offers.  So simple!</p>
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		<title>By: Hamranhansenhansen</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11712</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamranhansenhansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t they also syndicating a lot of their content to other newspapers who then show it for free?

My feeling is that they should just have substituted apps for paper. Continue to have what is essentially 2 products:

• free edition, Web only, traditional newspaper style
• paid edition, choose paper or app, in-depth articles, videos, info graphics, push the envelope

They have so few subscribers. If they had a goal to sign up 10% of iTunes account holders as subscribers, that would be 25 times more subscribers than they have ever had. And iTunes is global, not just US. But then again, this is a publication that recently said that pro-US propaganda is part of their editorial policy, i.e. water boarding by US perpetrators is not torture, and by anyone else, it is.

So they are clearly not getting it at NY Times. Likely they have to go bankrupt to learn their lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t they also syndicating a lot of their content to other newspapers who then show it for free?</p>
<p>My feeling is that they should just have substituted apps for paper. Continue to have what is essentially 2 products:</p>
<p>• free edition, Web only, traditional newspaper style<br />
• paid edition, choose paper or app, in-depth articles, videos, info graphics, push the envelope</p>
<p>They have so few subscribers. If they had a goal to sign up 10% of iTunes account holders as subscribers, that would be 25 times more subscribers than they have ever had. And iTunes is global, not just US. But then again, this is a publication that recently said that pro-US propaganda is part of their editorial policy, i.e. water boarding by US perpetrators is not torture, and by anyone else, it is.</p>
<p>So they are clearly not getting it at NY Times. Likely they have to go bankrupt to learn their lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11708</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Content being logical and all, this article is obviously written by the Fake Jean-Louis Gassée.  Everybody -at least from his Apple days- knows that Jean-Louis always punctuates his opinions with sexual metaphor.  And since the this topic is about the original Gray Lady, the real JLG could not have resisted.  Close, but no cigar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Content being logical and all, this article is obviously written by the Fake Jean-Louis Gassée.  Everybody -at least from his Apple days- knows that Jean-Louis always punctuates his opinions with sexual metaphor.  And since the this topic is about the original Gray Lady, the real JLG could not have resisted.  Close, but no cigar.</p>
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		<title>By: George Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2011/03/21/the-ny-times-un-free-at-last/#comment-11705</link>
		<dc:creator>George Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iPad arithmetic is off; $20 * 13 is of course $260 per year.</description>
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		<title>By: roby</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean-Louis has nailed this one.  The multi-tier pricing scheme is labyrinthine!  I was truly shocked to discover that they had different subs for different types of devices.

I should be able to subscribe at an annual, reasonable rate (in the $30-60 range, not $180) and enjoy the Times on all my devices:  MacBook Pro, iPod Touch, and iPad.

Believe me, this pricing scheme will change in time-- it will take them time to admit that they got it wrong, but a revised plan will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean-Louis has nailed this one.  The multi-tier pricing scheme is labyrinthine!  I was truly shocked to discover that they had different subs for different types of devices.</p>
<p>I should be able to subscribe at an annual, reasonable rate (in the $30-60 range, not $180) and enjoy the Times on all my devices:  MacBook Pro, iPod Touch, and iPad.</p>
<p>Believe me, this pricing scheme will change in time&#8211; it will take them time to admit that they got it wrong, but a revised plan will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Rosser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Rosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of the millions who can&#039;t afford $15 per month. 20 page views gets used up in 2 days.  I don&#039;t have a smart phone or ipad.  I use my cheap service cell phone for emergencies while traveling only.  Why is the digital paper more expensive than the physical paper delivered by imported oil?
Back in the 2000s I paid $29 for a yr subscription during NYTs&#039; initial foray into paid content.  That I can afford.  There are millions of us in this category.
I&#039;ve already changed out my welcome page on my computer.  I&#039;ve replaced the NYT with McClatchy excellent news.  Way to go NYT......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the millions who can&#8217;t afford $15 per month. 20 page views gets used up in 2 days.  I don&#8217;t have a smart phone or ipad.  I use my cheap service cell phone for emergencies while traveling only.  Why is the digital paper more expensive than the physical paper delivered by imported oil?<br />
Back in the 2000s I paid $29 for a yr subscription during NYTs&#8217; initial foray into paid content.  That I can afford.  There are millions of us in this category.<br />
I&#8217;ve already changed out my welcome page on my computer.  I&#8217;ve replaced the NYT with McClatchy excellent news.  Way to go NYT&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want to know is very simple and I wonder why it is so difficult to determine...

If I subscribe on, say, my iPad will I be able to see everything that&#039;s in the paper version? And if I missed yesterday&#039;s issue, can I go back and read it too?

That&#039;s all that matters to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know is very simple and I wonder why it is so difficult to determine&#8230;</p>
<p>If I subscribe on, say, my iPad will I be able to see everything that&#8217;s in the paper version? And if I missed yesterday&#8217;s issue, can I go back and read it too?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all that matters to me.</p>
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		<title>By: FMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>FMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frédéric has provided us with the means to avoid 98% of the NYT paywall.  

Thank you.

For the NYTImes, there is no reason to pay.

One must also factor in the loss of quality and credibility of the NYTimes over the decades.  It once was an outstanding newspaper but has become a leftwing rag sheet hardly fit for the outcroppings of a dog.  

Did I mention that I have a standing bet with each of my friends that, on any given day, I can find at least ten grammar mistakes on the front page of the NYTimes?  Do I want to pay for illiteracy?  Simply: the quality has been sacrificed to quantity.

Moreover, I am so terribly tired of reading the mindless cant that passes for intelligent argument on the Upper Weird Side of Manhattan.  Shut the Hell Up!, the NYTimes explains...

The technology section and travel are still good but everything else has been sacrificed to the pseudo-nobless oblige viewpoint that assumes that either there is no other side to an issue or it is malevolent.  

The book reviews are part and parcel of this viewpoint - an exercise in kool-aid drinking.  Don&#039;t start me on the Sunday Magazine which was once a delight but has become a dumbed down version of People Magazine.  Must everything be sacrificed for a 12 year old mentality for page views?

For this nincompoopism I should pay?  I do not think so.

It is a pity how long and far the NYTImes has fallen.  Right now, it is worth nothing.

Thank you Frédéric for your insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frédéric has provided us with the means to avoid 98% of the NYT paywall.  </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>For the NYTImes, there is no reason to pay.</p>
<p>One must also factor in the loss of quality and credibility of the NYTimes over the decades.  It once was an outstanding newspaper but has become a leftwing rag sheet hardly fit for the outcroppings of a dog.  </p>
<p>Did I mention that I have a standing bet with each of my friends that, on any given day, I can find at least ten grammar mistakes on the front page of the NYTimes?  Do I want to pay for illiteracy?  Simply: the quality has been sacrificed to quantity.</p>
<p>Moreover, I am so terribly tired of reading the mindless cant that passes for intelligent argument on the Upper Weird Side of Manhattan.  Shut the Hell Up!, the NYTimes explains&#8230;</p>
<p>The technology section and travel are still good but everything else has been sacrificed to the pseudo-nobless oblige viewpoint that assumes that either there is no other side to an issue or it is malevolent.  </p>
<p>The book reviews are part and parcel of this viewpoint &#8211; an exercise in kool-aid drinking.  Don&#8217;t start me on the Sunday Magazine which was once a delight but has become a dumbed down version of People Magazine.  Must everything be sacrificed for a 12 year old mentality for page views?</p>
<p>For this nincompoopism I should pay?  I do not think so.</p>
<p>It is a pity how long and far the NYTImes has fallen.  Right now, it is worth nothing.</p>
<p>Thank you Frédéric for your insights.</p>
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		<title>By: David H Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David H Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps someone can tell me why you would expect to pay MORE than a paper subscription for an online subscription covering all devices?  Especially when the paper subscription automatically includes all devices access!  If I had tons of money I would simply get the paper subscription.

But I don&#039;t.  And I think the Times underestimates the number of people who simply can&#039;t squeeze $15 a month out of their budgets for their paper.  

Why not charge $60 a year?  I&#039;ll bet you&#039;d get 10x the number of subscriptions and thus 3x the amount of money.  This is not a physical paper where readers are very expensive to service.  It&#039;s the web (and/or apps), where readers are dirt cheap to service.  I&#039;d pay $60 a year for the Times; there&#039;s no way I can pay $200, let alone $440.

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps someone can tell me why you would expect to pay MORE than a paper subscription for an online subscription covering all devices?  Especially when the paper subscription automatically includes all devices access!  If I had tons of money I would simply get the paper subscription.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t.  And I think the Times underestimates the number of people who simply can&#8217;t squeeze $15 a month out of their budgets for their paper.  </p>
<p>Why not charge $60 a year?  I&#8217;ll bet you&#8217;d get 10x the number of subscriptions and thus 3x the amount of money.  This is not a physical paper where readers are very expensive to service.  It&#8217;s the web (and/or apps), where readers are dirt cheap to service.  I&#8217;d pay $60 a year for the Times; there&#8217;s no way I can pay $200, let alone $440.</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sheppard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Sheppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I understand the New York Times is delivered via an application on the iPad, iPhone and/or Mac, and not by email.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sheppard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Sheppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gassée san,

So, you pay for a subscription to the New York Times, which you receive by email and not by a paper product that costs fuel to deliver. 

I would expect that once I pay for a subscription, it would be free of encumbrance such as advertising, but you say the emailed New York Times still contains advertising. 

Not only that, but I can still view some of the content outside of the &quot;paywall&quot;, where there is Google advertising. What do the paying New York Times advertisers think of that, sharing their newspaper with other advertisers? What do the paying Google advertisers think of that, sharing their paid content with the newspaper&#039;s advertisers? 

Surely after a decade of iTunes, commerce should have learned that 1. people will accept &quot;free&quot; if it&#039;s almost as good; 2. people will pay a &quot;reasonable&quot; price if it&#039;s convenient, good quality and doesn&#039;t come with the hassle such as advertising offered by &quot;free&quot; services. 

The New York Times appears to be offering a third way: you pay a subscription, you get the content but with advertising we make money from, and sometimes even with advertising that we make money from by selling it to two separate classes of advertisers, each of which think they are paying to get an exclusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gassée san,</p>
<p>So, you pay for a subscription to the New York Times, which you receive by email and not by a paper product that costs fuel to deliver. </p>
<p>I would expect that once I pay for a subscription, it would be free of encumbrance such as advertising, but you say the emailed New York Times still contains advertising. </p>
<p>Not only that, but I can still view some of the content outside of the &#8220;paywall&#8221;, where there is Google advertising. What do the paying New York Times advertisers think of that, sharing their newspaper with other advertisers? What do the paying Google advertisers think of that, sharing their paid content with the newspaper&#8217;s advertisers? </p>
<p>Surely after a decade of iTunes, commerce should have learned that 1. people will accept &#8220;free&#8221; if it&#8217;s almost as good; 2. people will pay a &#8220;reasonable&#8221; price if it&#8217;s convenient, good quality and doesn&#8217;t come with the hassle such as advertising offered by &#8220;free&#8221; services. </p>
<p>The New York Times appears to be offering a third way: you pay a subscription, you get the content but with advertising we make money from, and sometimes even with advertising that we make money from by selling it to two separate classes of advertisers, each of which think they are paying to get an exclusive.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Monday &#171; Protoblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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