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	<title>Comments on: Facebook: The Revenge of the Nerds</title>
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		<title>By: Haarwuchs</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-41721</link>
		<dc:creator>Haarwuchs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jolie section de contenu. Je viens de tombé sur votre blog et dans le capital d&#039;adhésion à affirmer que j&#039;acquiers compte réellement apprécié vos messages blog.
Quoi qu&#039;il en soit , je vais être abonnés à votre augment et j&#039;ai même réussite que vous accédez toujours rapidement .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jolie section de contenu. Je viens de tombé sur votre blog et dans le capital d&#8217;adhésion à affirmer que j&#8217;acquiers compte réellement apprécié vos messages blog.<br />
Quoi qu&#8217;il en soit , je vais être abonnés à votre augment et j&#8217;ai même réussite que vous accédez toujours rapidement .</p>
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		<title>By: All you need to know about Facebook&#8217;s IPO &#124; Warston</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21983</link>
		<dc:creator>All you need to know about Facebook&#8217;s IPO &#124; Warston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alastair Leith</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21868</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair Leith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was nation-states/was not longer nation-states</description>
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		<title>By: Alastair Leith</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21867</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair Leith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Facebook’s success isn’t just a sweet retort to Zuckerberg’s critics, it’s a confirmation of what makes Silicon Valley tick: techies, geeks, and nerds. While the technoïds aren’t always right — far from it — the great ones end up making and running great companies.&quot;

I don&#039;t think Mr Z&#039;s critics were questioning his business acumen, more so his ethics. A win in business does not an angle make. Even Mussolini made the trains run on time, as they say.

@Tom
There were blog stories around when FB went from college-think to mainstream-thing that the CIA was an early private investor in FB through the front companies they typically use. The story goes they had been doing lots of research and decided they needed a tool for drawing maps of social networks of all citizens of US and further afield, especially relevant post 9-11 when it was nation-states they were up against. Facebook seemed to be doing it already and would collect a good % of pop. I&#039;m sure Mr Z would have had no qualms about it. Hey they eavesdrop anyhow let&#039;s just give them the keys to the house.

I think it is mainly stupid western journalists who call the Arab Spring the FB Revolution. As Assange has pointed out, in Egypt and other places having uprisings leaders explicitly said don&#039;t post info on FB and twitter since the govt is using it to find (and then torture) people for more intelligence. Conduits of uncensored Govt documents, free and unstoppable by governments, dictators and multinationals are much more responsible for the Arab Spring than FB I believe. It&#039;s the internet itself that&#039;s empowering, not the projects of those who seek to cordon of a private piece of it for their own maniacal ends (haha).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Facebook’s success isn’t just a sweet retort to Zuckerberg’s critics, it’s a confirmation of what makes Silicon Valley tick: techies, geeks, and nerds. While the technoïds aren’t always right — far from it — the great ones end up making and running great companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Mr Z&#8217;s critics were questioning his business acumen, more so his ethics. A win in business does not an angle make. Even Mussolini made the trains run on time, as they say.</p>
<p>@Tom<br />
There were blog stories around when FB went from college-think to mainstream-thing that the CIA was an early private investor in FB through the front companies they typically use. The story goes they had been doing lots of research and decided they needed a tool for drawing maps of social networks of all citizens of US and further afield, especially relevant post 9-11 when it was nation-states they were up against. Facebook seemed to be doing it already and would collect a good % of pop. I&#8217;m sure Mr Z would have had no qualms about it. Hey they eavesdrop anyhow let&#8217;s just give them the keys to the house.</p>
<p>I think it is mainly stupid western journalists who call the Arab Spring the FB Revolution. As Assange has pointed out, in Egypt and other places having uprisings leaders explicitly said don&#8217;t post info on FB and twitter since the govt is using it to find (and then torture) people for more intelligence. Conduits of uncensored Govt documents, free and unstoppable by governments, dictators and multinationals are much more responsible for the Arab Spring than FB I believe. It&#8217;s the internet itself that&#8217;s empowering, not the projects of those who seek to cordon of a private piece of it for their own maniacal ends (haha).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Foremski</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21837</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Foremski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mr Z&#039;s attempt to portray Facebook as a socially conscious entity failed miserably compared with Mr Page&#039;s masterly written &quot;Letter&quot; which appeared at the beginning of GOOG&#039;s S1 while Facebook had it deep in the bowls at page 61. Mr Z waffled about how it is good for people to share, and that open government is a good thing, etc. Interestingly, he made no mention of the Arab Spring, which was at the time called a &quot;Facebook Revolution.&quot; It doesn&#039;t make sense to remind governments, such as the Chinese, a new potentail market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mr Z&#8217;s attempt to portray Facebook as a socially conscious entity failed miserably compared with Mr Page&#8217;s masterly written &#8220;Letter&#8221; which appeared at the beginning of GOOG&#8217;s S1 while Facebook had it deep in the bowls at page 61. Mr Z waffled about how it is good for people to share, and that open government is a good thing, etc. Interestingly, he made no mention of the Arab Spring, which was at the time called a &#8220;Facebook Revolution.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t make sense to remind governments, such as the Chinese, a new potentail market.</p>
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		<title>By: VolkerG</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21833</link>
		<dc:creator>VolkerG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed incredible how quickly this company raised from nothing to stunningly big. However, I wonder if they way down can be as quick, too?

Last week I talked to the 16 year old nerd, the leading gamer and internet user under my roof. He made me wonder. Here is how the discussion went:

16 &quot;I deleted my Facebook account&quot;

51 &quot;Oh, didn&#039;t you had some 1500 friends on facebook?&quot;

16 &quot;Sure. All gone. Deleted&quot;

51 &quot;Why that? Did they flood you with stuff?&quot;

16 &quot;No. Facebook is out. Deleting your account is hip now&quot;

Guess thats a lonesome datapoint, but what if it turned into a movement? What if other forms of social webs get the attention? Could fall be as steep as rise? And is the IPO just timed perfectly?

Nothing is a exciting as future ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed incredible how quickly this company raised from nothing to stunningly big. However, I wonder if they way down can be as quick, too?</p>
<p>Last week I talked to the 16 year old nerd, the leading gamer and internet user under my roof. He made me wonder. Here is how the discussion went:</p>
<p>16 &#8220;I deleted my Facebook account&#8221;</p>
<p>51 &#8220;Oh, didn&#8217;t you had some 1500 friends on facebook?&#8221;</p>
<p>16 &#8220;Sure. All gone. Deleted&#8221;</p>
<p>51 &#8220;Why that? Did they flood you with stuff?&#8221;</p>
<p>16 &#8220;No. Facebook is out. Deleting your account is hip now&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess thats a lonesome datapoint, but what if it turned into a movement? What if other forms of social webs get the attention? Could fall be as steep as rise? And is the IPO just timed perfectly?</p>
<p>Nothing is a exciting as future &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dbv</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21795</link>
		<dc:creator>dbv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, there is a significant ommision in the S1 which is Facebook&#039;s mobile monetization strategy.  The S1 says, “We do not currently directly generate any meaningful revenue from the use of Facebook mobile products, and our ability to do so successfully is unproven”.

This has to be analyzed wrt the mobile monetization of Apple and Google which is pretty spectacular for Apple and par-for-the-course for Google.  Facebook wants investors to believe that in the biggest change in the industry (ie. mobile) which got going in 2007, they don&#039;t have a story on this.  Effectively, Facebook are saying that they acknowledge that mobile is the future but they don&#039;t have a monetization strategy (5 years after the mobile wave started) but that they want investors to trust them that they will.  When asking to be valued at between $80bn and $100bn, isn&#039;t this just plain odd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, there is a significant ommision in the S1 which is Facebook&#8217;s mobile monetization strategy.  The S1 says, “We do not currently directly generate any meaningful revenue from the use of Facebook mobile products, and our ability to do so successfully is unproven”.</p>
<p>This has to be analyzed wrt the mobile monetization of Apple and Google which is pretty spectacular for Apple and par-for-the-course for Google.  Facebook wants investors to believe that in the biggest change in the industry (ie. mobile) which got going in 2007, they don&#8217;t have a story on this.  Effectively, Facebook are saying that they acknowledge that mobile is the future but they don&#8217;t have a monetization strategy (5 years after the mobile wave started) but that they want investors to trust them that they will.  When asking to be valued at between $80bn and $100bn, isn&#8217;t this just plain odd?</p>
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		<title>By: Nalini Muppala</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21793</link>
		<dc:creator>Nalini Muppala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graphic is from The Economist. The red tab at the top left corner is a give away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graphic is from The Economist. The red tab at the top left corner is a give away.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Louis Gassée</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/02/05/facebook-the-revenge-of-the-nerds/#comment-21765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Louis Gassée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ all: Frédéric has a way with numbers: he gave me 40 years off my biological age...</description>
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