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		<title>By: Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-31899</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I needed to thank you for this good read!! I certainly loved every bit of it.
I have got you book marked to check out new things you post…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I needed to thank you for this good read!! I certainly loved every bit of it.<br />
I have got you book marked to check out new things you post…</p>
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		<title>By: Aktuelles 10. August 2012 — neunetz.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aktuelles 10. August 2012 — neunetz.com</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tatil</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27086</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple store sales growth vs. company sales growth is easy to explain. There are many countries with no (or very few) Apple stores, but rapid iPhone and iPad sales growth. Naturally, Apple stores are unable to capture much of the recent growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple store sales growth vs. company sales growth is easy to explain. There are many countries with no (or very few) Apple stores, but rapid iPhone and iPad sales growth. Naturally, Apple stores are unable to capture much of the recent growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Left</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27025</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JLG, although Europe got some blame, things also don&#039;t look good with APAC numbers. Taking TC&#039;s comments in the CC along w/ 10Q, then 3Q YoY:

1) APAC revenues: went from year ago $6.332B to $7.887B (+25%)

2) Greater China revenues: From TC on the CC, they are about 2/3 APAC revenues. If we assume similar ratio for year ago 3Q, then Greater China grew from ~$3.851B to ~5.7B (+48%).

3) APAC-Greater China revenues: If we then remove Greater China from APAC, this implies that the rest of APAC was flat to contracting YoY.: $2.481B to $2.187B (-12%)

4) Mainland China revenues: TC also said Mainland China iPhones grew 100% YoY. Assuming majority of revenues in Mainland China are iPhones...

Conclusions?
=&gt; While Mainland China is still near triple digit-growth, the rest of Greater China (HK, Taiwan...) and rest of Mainland China product sales (outside of iPhones) are bad enough, such that overall Greater China growth was only 48% on avg. If you take TC at his word that they see no signs of sales lagging in Mainland China, then the blame falls on HK/Taiwan/etc. How much of Greater China revenues come from Mainland vs HK/Taiwan? 70:30? 80:20? Either way, it looks bad for HK/Taiwan.

=&gt; And the rest of APAC went negative (-12% give or take) such that overall APAC YoY growth was only 25%. Looks bad for rest of APAC.

Questions:
- was this demand trend falloff foreseeable?
- how bad will APAC (minus Mainland) numbers be in Q4/onwards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JLG, although Europe got some blame, things also don&#8217;t look good with APAC numbers. Taking TC&#8217;s comments in the CC along w/ 10Q, then 3Q YoY:</p>
<p>1) APAC revenues: went from year ago $6.332B to $7.887B (+25%)</p>
<p>2) Greater China revenues: From TC on the CC, they are about 2/3 APAC revenues. If we assume similar ratio for year ago 3Q, then Greater China grew from ~$3.851B to ~5.7B (+48%).</p>
<p>3) APAC-Greater China revenues: If we then remove Greater China from APAC, this implies that the rest of APAC was flat to contracting YoY.: $2.481B to $2.187B (-12%)</p>
<p>4) Mainland China revenues: TC also said Mainland China iPhones grew 100% YoY. Assuming majority of revenues in Mainland China are iPhones&#8230;</p>
<p>Conclusions?<br />
=&gt; While Mainland China is still near triple digit-growth, the rest of Greater China (HK, Taiwan&#8230;) and rest of Mainland China product sales (outside of iPhones) are bad enough, such that overall Greater China growth was only 48% on avg. If you take TC at his word that they see no signs of sales lagging in Mainland China, then the blame falls on HK/Taiwan/etc. How much of Greater China revenues come from Mainland vs HK/Taiwan? 70:30? 80:20? Either way, it looks bad for HK/Taiwan.</p>
<p>=&gt; And the rest of APAC went negative (-12% give or take) such that overall APAC YoY growth was only 25%. Looks bad for rest of APAC.</p>
<p>Questions:<br />
- was this demand trend falloff foreseeable?<br />
- how bad will APAC (minus Mainland) numbers be in Q4/onwards?</p>
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		<title>By: iphoned</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27017</link>
		<dc:creator>iphoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stepping back a notch...we have a company with some track record on a cusp of another major project refresh...will they succeed or will they fail?  Now is a good time to place the odds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stepping back a notch&#8230;we have a company with some track record on a cusp of another major project refresh&#8230;will they succeed or will they fail?  Now is a good time to place the odds.</p>
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		<title>By: Reagan</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27015</link>
		<dc:creator>Reagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLG,

Good to have you back. Hope FF is doing well.

-R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLG,</p>
<p>Good to have you back. Hope FF is doing well.</p>
<p>-R</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Louis Gassée</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27014</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Louis Gassée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ all: Following an exchange with Benedict Evans, the trend in Apple Store numbers isn&#039;t new at all. In Q2 FY 2012, the whole co grew by 59% and retail by &quot;only&quot; 28%. I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ all: Following an exchange with Benedict Evans, the trend in Apple Store numbers isn&#8217;t new at all. In Q2 FY 2012, the whole co grew by 59% and retail by &#8220;only&#8221; 28%. I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: rd</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27011</link>
		<dc:creator>rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 05:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLG,

real issue is Apple is in another transition from non-Retina to Retina
at the same time as changing from LG to Sharp.
Apple can&#039;t use Sharp until contract with LG runs out.
then there is Haswell waiting in the wings.  with these two
things, I believe Apple can double the Macs it sells per quarter.

Also Apple is attacking Win8 with the new Genius commercials.

India&#039;s Aircel just started selling iphone 3gs at Rs 9,999
with 1 year plan for Rs 297.
So basically selling for $250 unlocked no contract price
in non-contract countries is coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLG,</p>
<p>real issue is Apple is in another transition from non-Retina to Retina<br />
at the same time as changing from LG to Sharp.<br />
Apple can&#8217;t use Sharp until contract with LG runs out.<br />
then there is Haswell waiting in the wings.  with these two<br />
things, I believe Apple can double the Macs it sells per quarter.</p>
<p>Also Apple is attacking Win8 with the new Genius commercials.</p>
<p>India&#8217;s Aircel just started selling iphone 3gs at Rs 9,999<br />
with 1 year plan for Rs 297.<br />
So basically selling for $250 unlocked no contract price<br />
in non-contract countries is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: vishi gondi</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27009</link>
		<dc:creator>vishi gondi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My reasoning for the three numbers:
* The 3% “Miss”: Apple charges carriers $600/iPhone and android makers charge $350. Careers obviously will push android. Apple didn&#039;t see that knife stab coming  in when the quarter started. 
.

* Margins 38.5%, down from 42.8%: Apple adjusted it margins to match career tactics, but will blow past the estimates due to the new iPhone launch. Careers cannot control demand when a new iPhone launches.
.

* Store revenue grew by 17%: People are buying stuff online and going into stores to get them fixed. Apple is starting to showcase the genius part, rather than the store part in their TV ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reasoning for the three numbers:<br />
* The 3% “Miss”: Apple charges carriers $600/iPhone and android makers charge $350. Careers obviously will push android. Apple didn&#8217;t see that knife stab coming  in when the quarter started.<br />
.</p>
<p>* Margins 38.5%, down from 42.8%: Apple adjusted it margins to match career tactics, but will blow past the estimates due to the new iPhone launch. Careers cannot control demand when a new iPhone launches.<br />
.</p>
<p>* Store revenue grew by 17%: People are buying stuff online and going into stores to get them fixed. Apple is starting to showcase the genius part, rather than the store part in their TV ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Louis Gassée</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27008</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Louis Gassée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ iphoned: The bottom line, IMO, is we&#039;ve got to watch what happens to these three numbers moving forward. And others such as Apple TV unit shipments, iPhone vs. Samsung and the like. This doesn&#039;t mean worrying, just watching and trying to understand what&#039;s actually going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ iphoned: The bottom line, IMO, is we&#8217;ve got to watch what happens to these three numbers moving forward. And others such as Apple TV unit shipments, iPhone vs. Samsung and the like. This doesn&#8217;t mean worrying, just watching and trying to understand what&#8217;s actually going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Louis Gassée</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Louis Gassée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ rd: Yes, Mac shipments were slowed down because people waited for the newer Ivy Bridge-based laptops. I don&#039;t know about the 2M phone overestimate in China, you might very well be right. Still, what bugs me is Apple didn&#039;t see it coming a mere 60 days before the end of the quarter, the time when thy issued their guidance. Highly unusual for such a tightly run (some say controlling) company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ rd: Yes, Mac shipments were slowed down because people waited for the newer Ivy Bridge-based laptops. I don&#8217;t know about the 2M phone overestimate in China, you might very well be right. Still, what bugs me is Apple didn&#8217;t see it coming a mere 60 days before the end of the quarter, the time when thy issued their guidance. Highly unusual for such a tightly run (some say controlling) company.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Louis Gassée</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27006</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Louis Gassée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Benedict Evans: You&#039;re right, of course. Samsung uses one of the usual shills, Strategy Analytics, I think, to issue unofficially official numbers after declining to disclose such in their quarterly filings &quot;for competitive reasons&quot;.
On this broad practice, see The Best Analysis Money Can Buy http://j.mp/OwnOEh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Benedict Evans: You&#8217;re right, of course. Samsung uses one of the usual shills, Strategy Analytics, I think, to issue unofficially official numbers after declining to disclose such in their quarterly filings &#8220;for competitive reasons&#8221;.<br />
On this broad practice, see The Best Analysis Money Can Buy <a href="http://j.mp/OwnOEh" rel="nofollow">http://j.mp/OwnOEh</a></p>
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		<title>By: iphoned</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27005</link>
		<dc:creator>iphoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so the bottom line?  we don&#039;t really know what&#039;s going on, but now have more to worry about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so the bottom line?  we don&#8217;t really know what&#8217;s going on, but now have more to worry about?</p>
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		<title>By: rd</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27004</link>
		<dc:creator>rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is big backlog of people waiting for ivy Bridge iMacs, Mac mini
and even Mac Pro.  Now with Retina, there is more people going
to wait for Retina Macbook Pro 13.
Some waiting for Mountain Lion to be installed in new machines.

I think Apple overestimate iphone Sales in China by 2M.

ipad came in lower then it should have.  margin is lower 2 quarters in a row for it.
so most of the sales is for K12 or lower spec version bought by corp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is big backlog of people waiting for ivy Bridge iMacs, Mac mini<br />
and even Mac Pro.  Now with Retina, there is more people going<br />
to wait for Retina Macbook Pro 13.<br />
Some waiting for Mountain Lion to be installed in new machines.</p>
<p>I think Apple overestimate iphone Sales in China by 2M.</p>
<p>ipad came in lower then it should have.  margin is lower 2 quarters in a row for it.<br />
so most of the sales is for K12 or lower spec version bought by corp.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedict Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27003</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedict Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A point of detail: Samsung doesn&#039;t disclose smartphone shipments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A point of detail: Samsung doesn&#8217;t disclose smartphone shipments.</p>
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		<title>By: Canucker</title>
		<link>http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/07/29/apple-three-intriguing-numbers/#comment-27002</link>
		<dc:creator>Canucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple continues to take the high ground and while competitors are picking up points at the low end it has always been so. Apple is in transition and the fact that it&#039;s gross margins remain double (at least) of its competitors, is remarkable. Samsung is doing more damage to its Android siblings than Apple (including Motorola) and is wisely hedging it&#039;s bets.

As for the future, the retina MacBook Pro is a glimpse of this. If you have the funds, it&#039;s an early peek at what the next three years will yield. The display is difficult to appreciate unless experienced and early buyers (like me) are being fleeced - except that it will hold it&#039;s own for several years. The tech will migrate to 13 and 11&quot; portables. Meanwhile, the success or failure of Windows 8 will define competition. Chrome/Android are not relevant (yet). Moreover, in the tablet space, not only is Apple the only company continuing to make money, the floor of the OEMs has just been dropped by Google itself. This is surely a somewhat desperate attempt (and recognition) by Google that the Android tablet market remains moribund and that it&#039;s now or never to break Apples deadlock (same conclusion was reached by Microsoft). Meanwhile, Apple moves forward not by slashing prices but by adding value through the ecosystem. It&#039;s a long term bet but it is also the action and luxury of a front-runner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple continues to take the high ground and while competitors are picking up points at the low end it has always been so. Apple is in transition and the fact that it&#8217;s gross margins remain double (at least) of its competitors, is remarkable. Samsung is doing more damage to its Android siblings than Apple (including Motorola) and is wisely hedging it&#8217;s bets.</p>
<p>As for the future, the retina MacBook Pro is a glimpse of this. If you have the funds, it&#8217;s an early peek at what the next three years will yield. The display is difficult to appreciate unless experienced and early buyers (like me) are being fleeced &#8211; except that it will hold it&#8217;s own for several years. The tech will migrate to 13 and 11&#8243; portables. Meanwhile, the success or failure of Windows 8 will define competition. Chrome/Android are not relevant (yet). Moreover, in the tablet space, not only is Apple the only company continuing to make money, the floor of the OEMs has just been dropped by Google itself. This is surely a somewhat desperate attempt (and recognition) by Google that the Android tablet market remains moribund and that it&#8217;s now or never to break Apples deadlock (same conclusion was reached by Microsoft). Meanwhile, Apple moves forward not by slashing prices but by adding value through the ecosystem. It&#8217;s a long term bet but it is also the action and luxury of a front-runner.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Apple fat margin bubble is over. Apple can choose to be a high margin niche company or a low margin mass market company. They no longer have the vision or the execution to have both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Apple fat margin bubble is over. Apple can choose to be a high margin niche company or a low margin mass market company. They no longer have the vision or the execution to have both.</p>
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